Dave17 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 While we don't know the full extent of Doran's schemes the one person who we know did was Oberyn. And there is that mysterious line where we learn that Willias Tyrell and Oberyn often exchanged letters, so does Willias know (anything?) about Doran's plans.It seems unlikely with the Tyrell so far in with the Lannisters but under the current situation the Tyrell hold all the power while the Lannisters have very little, and we have been told that Willias is very politically smart. If the Tyrells were to suddenly switch and support (F)Aegon then there is no-one who would be able to stop them taking the throne (While Dany is in Essos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I don't think either Oberyn or Doran would be foolish enough to inform the son of a rival and a potential foe. Willas is smart, but he isn't the head of House Tyrell, Mace is. The Tyrells won't just unilaterally change sides as Margaery is still married to Tommen, and they have what they want under Tommen: Margaery is married to a king and currently, Tyrell domination of the small council. Lady Olenna also states that the Tyrells value their word more than all the gold in CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Horseflesh may be Oberyn's sly inside reference to the Dothraki, he specifies when he last had correspondence with Willas and it may coincide with when Doran could have heard of Viserys death. For Willas to be onside with Oberyn he'd basically have to be a traitor to his father which seems very unlikely, but perhaps he bears a grudge and he's smart enough to put the blame for his disability where it really belongs. Peake also specifically says the power of Highgarden may not be what Mace Tyrell imagines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think it is possible, to some small extend. Keep in mind that the Tyrells were on the loyalist side in RR and the Martells could see a potential ally in them. I think Oberyn could hint something, especially since he is Oberyn, not exactly known for his caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ours if the Fury Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 They may be friends but the red viper isnt that brash, in the fact that he would not send tactical information about doran's plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think it is possible, to some small extend. Keep in mind that the Tyrells were on the loyalist side in RR and the Martells could see a potential ally in them. I think Oberyn could hint something, especially since he is Oberyn, not exactly known for his caution. They were loyal to the Targaryens when they were sitting the IT, but now that they are dispossessed the Tyrells were scheming to make Margaery Robert's new queen. They are summer friends so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 They were loyal to the Targaryens when they were sitting the IT, but now that they are dispossessed the Tyrells were scheming to make Margaery Robert's new queen. They are summer friends so to speak. they would not make good allies in restoring Targaryens on the throne, but they would make excellent allies in putting Tywin's head on a spike. Subtle hints about part of the Martells' intentions would make sense IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victarion Chainbreaker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I can't believe Oberyn would would do something that rash or stupid. On the other hand, he is the guy who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by coming within Gregor reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I don't think so. I think the reason why we learn that Oberyn and Willas remain in amiable terms is because the Tyrell-Dorne conflict is not as extreme as everyone thinks, and both sides were just playing it up to keep the Lannisters distracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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