Mycah Bluth Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I see a lot of comments and theories operating under the assumption that, in the aftermath of Kevan and Pycelle's assassinations, Cersei is going to just be given the regency right back. Is that a reasonable assumption? She's under house arrest by the Faith for murder, fornication and treason, and I can't see the Tyrells letting her get back on top, even if she "behaves." I'm just uncertain of the extent to which she'll get back the wherewithal to create the kind of chaos Varys desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I think it is safe to assume she will get back into the game with Kevan now pushing up the daisies, but you are right, I do not think the Tyrells will let her get the power that she once incompetently wielded back, but she might be back as Regent under tight control, after all, she is still Tommen's mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I think it is safe to assume she will get back into the game with Kevan now pushing up the daisies, but you are right, I do not think the Tyrells will let her get the power that she once incompetently wielded back, but she might be back as Regent under tight control, after all, she is still Tommen's mother. "Of that, we can be sure." I agree, I don't see how she could regain her old authority, some crazy shit would have to go down with the Faith and the Tyrells. And maybe it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klemenko Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 She is out of the game having the Faith and the Tyrells against her unless she seizes control over Casterly Rock and its resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Not much.. I´m thinking that her being in "power", just means the tyrells gone, and her in control of the city watch... my guess is that King´s Landing will be in a similar state as Rhaenyra´s rule. with the reach under ironborn attack, the food won´t be coming to KL. during the war of the five kings, the stokeworths and Rosby were the only food supply left for the capital. But this time Cersei won´t even control the crownlands, given the dispute over rosby.. With Aegon coming to her gates, and the smallfolk rebelling, after Myrcella´s death, she will trigger the plan to burn KL to the ground. And jaime will kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I could very easily see Cersie trying to pull a "Mad King" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 She'll realize that she has no chance of ruling again in KL, so she'll grab Tommen and flee to Casterly Rock and barricade there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driesel Snow Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Not much.. I´m thinking that her being in "power", just means the tyrells gone, and her in control of the city watch... my guess is that King´s Landing will be in a similar state as Rhaenyra´s rule. with the reach under ironborn attack, the food won´t be coming to KL. during the war of the five kings, the stokeworths and Rosby were the only food supply left for the capital. But this time Cersei won´t even control the crownlands, given the dispute over rosby.. With Aegon coming to her gates, and the smallfolk rebelling, after Myrcella´s death, she will trigger the plan to burn KL to the ground. And jaime will kill her. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Only as much as the idiots running KL give her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastydream Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 She'll realize that she has no chance of ruling again in KL, so she'll grab Tommen and flee to Casterly Rock and barricade there Yeap I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Only as much as the idiots running KL give her. right now, the Tyrells, of course they´ll give her no power at all. If they were to be removed, then Cersei could take advantage of the power vaccum, and gain control of the city again... We know the Tyrell army left the city to confront the Golden Company... so the moment is ripe.. MAybe Cersei takes control of margaery and helds her hostage to force the tyrell to go fight Aegon. Similar to Aerys with Elia and her children to keep Dorne supporting the crown during Robert´s Rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys' kitten Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Perhaps Prince Doran will come to claim his seat on the Small Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Perhaps Prince Doran will come to claim his seat on the Small Council. Prince Doran is sending one of the Sand Snakes to take his seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little and Less Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I'm with Lord too fat - Cersei will gain some power because the Tyrells will be busy with the Ironborn and fAegon too. I seem to recall that apparently Lord Tyrell can't do two things at once - I think when we left ADWD he was too busy dealing with Marg's trial to worry about other matters. Not looking good for the future of the Tyrells What's interesting is if Cersei has to deal with the Stokeworths - isn't Bronn in charge there? (Leave it to GRRM to bring him back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 right now, the Tyrells, of course they´ll give her no power at all. If they were to be removed, then Cersei could take advantage of the power vaccum, and gain control of the city again... We know the Tyrell army left the city to confront the Golden Company... so the moment is ripe.. MAybe Cersei takes control of margaery and helds her hostage to force the tyrell to go fight Aegon. Similar to Aerys with Elia and her children to keep Dorne supporting the crown during Robert´s Rebellion. Thats very plausible :) I'm with Lord too fat - Cersei will gain some power because the Tyrells will be busy with the Ironborn and fAegon too. What's interesting is if Cersei has to deal with the Stokeworths - isn't Bronn in charge there? LOL, I can't wait to see Bronn vs Cersei!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little and Less Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Actually I can't see King Tommen too happy with mama right now - she did get his Queen jailed. Cersei may not be able to sway King Tommen as easily as she could before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well Qyburn seems to be her man, so she will have the Master of Whisperers in her pocket, maybe, for what its worth. The Gold Cloaks, I'm not sure about, Tyrell did add 100 of his men to their numbers, not sure about the loyalties of the current commander. She could pull the Lannister army out of the Riverlands and back to Kings Landing and that would at least give her an army. Kevan did indicate that there were all ready hundreds of Lannister guardsmen there. Of course Cersei herself is not popular with the populace, neither are the Lannisters in general. Maybe she could try to get remarried but I doubt it. I agree that circumstances could work to her advantage and she might try to sway the Faith but other than the gold and possibly the Wests military power she does not seem to have much going for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little and Less Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 And I forget - was a Stokeworth tortured by Qyburn at Cersei's request? I see a lot of angry hungry peasants in Cersei's future....which could again be a win for the High Septon/sparrows/Faith Militant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Tyrell Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Some things need to happen for sure. First off, Varys made it pretty clear to Kevan that he needs Cersei back in charge and will do everything in his power to get her back on that throne.Cersei will first of all win her trial, and then Margeary must also lose hers. This is the requirement for Cersei to regain her power. The High Septon (who I think is in league with Varys, and if he were plump I'd say he's Varys himself) will listen to Cersei and merely have Margeary imprisoned. Cersei then threatens Mace that if he does not directly follow her commands, then she will have Margeary killed. Mace is then commanded to go to Storm's End, and the Tyrells then make a deal with Aegon in order to save Margeary.I think it has to go down pretty much exactly like that for her to regain her power, and she'll be crazier and more unstable than ever. She's now been completely exposed and degraded so she'll very visibly start to act and look like the Mad King. I don't see her surviving the novel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Cersei will first of all win her trial, and then Margeary must also lose hers. This is the requirement for Cersei to regain her power. The High Septon (who I think is in league with Varys, and if he were plump I'd say he's Varys himself) will listen to Cersei and merely have Margeary imprisoned. Cersei then threatens Mace that if he does not directly follow her commands, then she will have Margeary killed. Mace is then commanded to go to Storm's End, and the Tyrells then make a deal with Aegon in order to save Margeary. Margaery is in the custody of her own family, and the Tyrells at this point are militarily in control of the city. I can't imagine how Cersei would somehow gain Margaery as a hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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