King Behind The Wall Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Gilly's baby on the show is not growing up and it seems that they might recast(!) the baby, http://winteriscoming.net/2015/08/25/hbo-casting-babies-and-children-from-spain-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/ Unless I missed something, there is no mention of Little Sam growing up in the books as well. Little Sam is the ONLY son of Craster that we know which was not sacrificed to the Gods. Little Sam was destined to be a part of the cold mist descending upon the seven kingdoms. WW are not recruiting male babies from any random wildlings. Why Craster's sons? Is Little Sam genetically different from wildlings? Or is he bound by some supernatural force and needs to stay beyond the wall? Can he not grow up as a human but only as a WW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 No. Very little time has passed in the books, whereas the show's timeline is very confusing, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Um... I think it may be a minor continuity oversight ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I started a post for this and Kissedbyfire is most likely right. They show has only aged in the same time Little Sam, seemingly a few weeks, while Tommen got recast and aged up 8 years so he could have an after-sex scene with Marge Tyrell. Just chalk it up to creativity by the show runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 At this point I am becoming convince Gilly's baby is going to be critical to the end game and has to remain an infant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Let's see... A baby doesn't grow as expected and characters don't comment on it, no one notices, and life proceeds business as usual. And then, at a later point in the story we get a reveal explaining [insert reason of choice]. I mean, that would be a pathetic asspull, Martin would never do that, and he's the one writing the books regardless of what happens on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Friendzoned Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The babies not growing? Proof? I mean, we don't know the exact time between each season, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Jett Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The babies not growing? Proof? I mean, we don't know the exact time between each season, anyways. We actually do get little clues about the time. Sam says he's been worrying about Jon for "years". They met in season one. Myrcella says she has been in dorne for "years". The baby should be at least one and a half maybe two, but it looks like a newborn still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logicsbane Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Bah.....just a minor oversight by the show runners....details, schmeetails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Behind The Wall Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Even my initial guess was that this is a continuity error, just like several other problems with the show. But just wanted to put this crackpot theory out there for you all to chew on. The babies not growing? Proof? I mean, we don't know the exact time between each season, anyways. WW will take what is rightfully(?) theirs. On a more serious note, maybe Little Sam being Craster's son is linked to the origins of WW or their nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Malnourishment. Gilly is sick and her milk is not quite right. No, just kidding. I do love that scene with her, baby and dying Maester Aemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's waiting to grow until the WW pick it up? Lawl :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amun Ra Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I started a post for this and Kissedbyfire is most likely right. They show has only aged in the same time Little Sam, seemingly a few weeks, while Tommen got recast and aged up 8 years so he could have an after-sex scene with Marge Tyrell. Just chalk it up to creativity by the show runners. Aged up for 8 years? Tommen is the same age as Bran in the books and possibly the same in the show. Bran was 10 years old in season 1 and so was Tommen. The producers have stated that every season lasts for about a year. So in season 5, Tommen is around 15 years old. Does the actor look older to you?? Don't forget, Joffrey was 13 at his wedding in the books and I remember that the bedding was bound to happen. So was at Sansa's wedding (who was also around 13) That means it is NOT necessary that the person is 16 years old to consumate the wedding and TV Tommen was NOT aged up but just replaced with more capable actor because his role got much bigger in later books. (Callum Wharry, who portrayed Tommen in seasons 1 and 2 was officially an extra) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Aged up for 8 years? Tommen is the same age as Bran in the books and possibly the same in the show. Bran was 10 years old in season 1 and so was Tommen. The producers have stated that every season lasts for about a year. So in season 5, Tommen is around 15 years old. Does the actor look older to you?? Don't forget, Joffrey was 13 at his wedding in the books and I remember that the bedding was bound to happen. So was at Sansa's wedding (who was also around 13) That means it is NOT necessary that the person is 16 years old to consumate the wedding and TV Tommen was NOT aged up but just replaced with more capable actor because his role got much bigger in later books. (Callum Wharry, who portrayed Tommen in seasons 1 and 2 was officially an extra) So according to this logic, Baby Sam de Leon is more than 3 yrs old show-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Wasn't Tommen referred to as 7 or 8 by loras in season 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amun Ra Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Wasn't Tommen referred to as 7 or 8 by loras in season 2? I don't remember. I think Tommen was aged up like all the other characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amun Ra Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So according to this logic, Baby Sam de Leon is more than 3 yrs old show-wise. Actually around two years old. I noticed the same issue in movie Troy (also written by David Benioff) - Hector's son remained a baby even though the Trojan war lasted for 10 years. But considering that Gilly's baby is always wrapped in blanket, you dont actually "see" how old is he (Yes, a weird statement) and children in medieval times were not always healthy. That's just my explanation. When I notice a flaw, I usually try to explain it my own way instead of whining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Actually around two years old. I noticed the same issue in movie Troy (also written by David Benioff) - Hector's son remained a baby even though the Trojan war lasted for 10 years. But considering that Gilly's baby is always wrapped in blanket, you dont actually "see" how old is he (Yes, a weird statement) and children in medieval times were not always healthy. That's just my explanation. When I notice a flaw, I usually try to explain it my own way instead of whining about it. Calling out a continuity error is not "whining." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amun Ra Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Calling out a continuity error is not "whining." I didn't mean it that way. I just wanted to say that I try to explain these errors to enjoy the show more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Gilly gave birth in the beginning of s3, so by the end of s5 the 'baby' should be nearly 3, and no, no one carries a three-year-old like that all the time. And yes, Loras said on screen back n s 1 that 'Tommen is 8'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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