Joan Jett

I'm so glad Ghost didn't die!!

You seem to be missing the point entirely. This show has had many obvious girl power moments between women, that's just fact.

WHERE IS JON SNOWS SHIELD

Dude you need to do a rewatch or something. Brienne and Arya both have a talk about their swords and how theirs dads/society feel about women.

Ramsay is a terrible person, who knew.

No? It happened with Brienne and Arya too. And Arya and Lady Crane I guess.

my spidey sense is tingling.....dick joke incoming.

Jon.....the greatest swordsman to ever walk.....

Wrong thread.

Ok, but personally I still consider it to be incest since they're related by blood.

Cousins are still related, so it's still incest. Acceptable incest.

This makes absolutely no sense. Sansa is Jon's sister and Jon is Sansa's brother, whether they were close or not. They grew up as siblings in the same castle. I really don't understand why you're making this big leap just because there was indifference and resentful feelings between them. That doesn't erase the fact that they viewed each other as siblings and they still do. Sansa and Arya weren't very close. I guess you think they're not emotionally siblings either? Lmao. This might be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Tywin and Joanna is a bad example to use. The difference is that Joanna and Tywin weren't raised as brother and sister while Jon and Sansa were. Emotionally they are siblings. Like I stated already, GRRM only forms incestuous relationships between siblings with close bonds. My point still stands.

Technically it is still incest. They're cousins. It's just incest that is allowed. Also Jon and Sansa still grew up siblings. When it comes to siblings falling in love, there is always a close bond as foundation. My point still stands. And those Sandor/Jon parallels are impressive, but it's really not an indication of Jon/Sansa at all. There is no foreshadowing or hints in the books that Sansa and Jon will ever be together.

Sorry for misinterpreting you, but you still haven answered my question. What red herrings quotes were you referencing? Also can you elaborate more on these Jon/Sandor parallels? Facial disfigurement? That's it? And like I said before, when GRRM writes incestuous relationships it's always with a close sibling bond as the foundations. That's his pattern. I already gave you examples. You're saying I have no insight and yet you're the one who said that GRRM will write Jon marrying Sansa and raising Ramsay's kid.....OK.