New maps for the Wiki
Posted 14 July 2011 - 06:19 AM
Westeros and Essos (unmarked)
The Free Cities
Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:24 PM
any other maps you know of, that we can use, at least until we can produce some of our own?
also not maps, but on topic of do you know... does anyone know who is the Arthur of those two images: Lhazar.jpg , Astapor.jpg ??
Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:57 PM
I don't know who illustrated those maps, but thanks for posting that KL one. That map will help me greatly for my game, though it also makes the job of recreating Kings Landing vastly more complicated. I know I wont be able to fit such densely fitted buildings in the space allowed.
Posted 23 September 2011 - 12:40 PM
Edited by Ran, 23 September 2011 - 12:41 PM.
Posted 24 September 2011 - 05:05 AM
btw, if anyone here has some skill with Cartograph and want to help with maps on the wiki updating old, creating new. anything from simply adding a path of daenerys travels on ESSos from pentose to meereen or adding regional/political spheres to detailed topographic map. it's will be much appreciated.
I know scafloc is working on the map project and you can also check out for reference Werthead map in OP, map-of-the-world thread and the Maps we use on the wiki.
Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:39 PM
any thoughts or suggestions?
Edited by mor2, 22 November 2011 - 08:39 PM.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:09 AM
I see it also places the Summer Isles and so on, which is also quite speculative and isn't derived from any map that I'm aware of...
I think it'd have to be looked at closely to make sure that only those parts that conform with the published maps exist there.
Edited by Ran, 23 November 2011 - 06:15 AM.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:16 AM
Still it's the most complete map out there (and I looked all over the net, cartography guild included, nothing in the past few month) and most of all it's good. It will provide us the full westeros/free cities map which we really lack and the topographical data will allow to create a really nice "vector maps" for various event (for example the great ranging, the wildling attacks etc - my inspiration War_of_the_Usurper.png).
back to summer islands and ibben their size and shape is speculative but their location is not so much, I was thinking to resolve this with something like that USA_orthographic.svg to allow new people to get the feel and the layout of the world (the specific shape is less important).
if anyone has any alternatives, reservation, suggestion(for example what info to include or even a good font /color scheme for the various layers) it would be appreciated so we can iron it out before/if i start the project.
Edited by mor2, 23 November 2011 - 08:16 AM.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:27 PM
One note: a number of cities and castles use the current maps. Will the marker be at the same place? I hope that we do not have to check all of them and change the coordinates of the markers.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:45 PM
Basically, if it's been published in the books (see the official Bantam maps), then I think it's fine to present this as a representation of the canonical maps. But the depiction of Essos east of Slaver's Bay and Ib is purely from the TV show, and the presentation of the Summer Isles is absolutely speculative with no reference to any map at all.
So, for my part, I'd cut that stuff out. Just leave it a big blank on the image, and leave details only for what corresponds to what's been published to date in the books. I agree it's very nice, but it's an attempt to create stuff that doesn't exist in an official way.
Edited by Ran, 23 November 2011 - 12:51 PM.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:02 PM
@Ran, If you refer to the Tv show first season intro then no, it's just a better(IMO) interpretation of the information provided in the novel than this Citadel/Gallery/Entry/782/, in either case as you said we cannot really place none canonical info. Btw regarding the official map, I have manged to upload them all to the Wiki Portal:Geography, too bad that fair use only allow us to use them in this way and not inside the rest of the articles
Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:16 PM
Ran, do you know if the world book will contain a combined map of Westeros/Free Cities/Slaver's Bay, clarifying the relationship between them?
Posted 24 November 2011 - 04:55 AM
Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:33 AM
That way you could have the whole thing, but people can see what's genuinely canonical and what's at best semi-canonical and what's entirely speculative.
Posted 25 November 2011 - 08:46 AM
Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:34 AM
Posted 25 November 2011 - 06:29 PM
If you look very carefully at Essos in that image, it does look like GRRM's own map is underlaid beneath (at least I assume that's what it is, the hand-drawn map given to HBO by him). You can see the Rhoyne, the Valyrian roads and landmarks that appeared on the 'proper' ADWD Free Cities map, as well as the Forest of Qohor. In fact, immediately to the east of the Forest of Qohor you can see them starting to use randomised copy-and-paste material again: the Mander and Cockleswent appear to be in there again, and Gods Eye a bit further right. That indicates that all of that area is unreliable.
Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:44 AM
Unless I am mistaken, the last two aren't yet available in that Portal. Would you like me to rectify that?
Never mind. They are there after all. I am left wondering how come the ADWD maps for the North and the South exist, but are nowhere to be found in my copy.
Edited by LuisDantas, 26 November 2011 - 06:55 AM.