Tre Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I had to put this back into your circles as this has been a massive discussion with my "new friends/serfs who have now watched the tv series".Some people cannot lose 2 special and liked characters in season 1 of a tv series or book 1, I say why not, it developes the other story, which was originally the point of a three part book.Having read all the books, looked in at some of the forum and thought I was a proffessional on ASOIF, I questioned myself when one of the newbies asked me " Everyone has an opinion,(if i ever see IMO or IMHO on a comment "reply") everyone has a 'As*h**e',. Syrio lives until we hear, see or read anything to confirm he is truly dead.[was the favorite character]Its simple reasoning, what do you think?Please comment, I would like to know what you think and can bring to this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeli Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Given the grim situation, I feel that Syrio is dead unless we see any proof that he lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jons nissa Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 grrm has stated emphatically, without any doubt, that syrio is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 grrm has stated emphatically, without any doubt, that syrio is dead.No, emphatically, he has not. Re-read the SSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 He lives on in our hearts? ...........And the millions of Syrio is not dead threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnow Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No, emphatically, he has not. Re-read the SSM.Could someone quote that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Hand Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think it's very possible that Syrio is alive. How many times have we assumed characters to be dead who turned out to be alive the whole time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 The first sword does not run, took down many guards, and no bragging from Sir Meryn Trant? Not 1 mention, as newbies said to me " If i bested the best I would let everyone know about it", just made me think/reconsider my view because Cersie made no comment either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Given the grim situation, I feel that Syrio is dead unless we see any proof that he livesEn the whole Valar Morgalis/Bravosi story arc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think it's very possible that Syrio is alive. How many times have we assumed characters to be dead who turned out to be alive the whole time?Zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeli Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Zero?Right. I can't think of one. Not one that's been dead for this long anyway. Aegon maybe, but the jury's still out on that one.I'm not saying that it's impossible that Syrio lives, just that the burden of proof is on those that believe he's alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Hand Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Zero?I meant like Bran and Rickon, Theon, Berric, etc. The text made them seem dead but it turned out they were alive. So unless a character is absolutely proven to be dead I wouldn't assume them to be just because things "looked bad". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat of the Banal Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I recently reread the part part where Arya meats Jacqen for the first time and she states that something in his voice reminded her of Syrio, but she couldn't explain what. Despite all the naysayers I am convinced the Jacqen and Syrio are one in the same. Syrio got caught, was sent to the black cells and changed his face. The guards just cleaned out the cells and sent him to the nights watch. I think Rorge and Biter may have seen him change faces, and that was why they were so scared of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I recently reread the part part where Arya meats Jacqen for the first time and she states that something in his voice reminded her of Syrio, but she couldn't explain what. Despite all the naysayers I am convinced the Jacqen and Syrio are one in the same. Syrio got caught, was sent to the black cells and changed his face. The guards just cleaned out the cells and sent him to the nights watch. I think Rorge and Biter may have seen him change faces, and that was why they were so scared of him.They killed all of Ned's household, even the steward. Why wouldn't they kill Syrio? He'd just beaten the crap out of some guardsmen and they weren't about to let it go.Syrio is dead guys. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I recently reread the part part where Arya meats Jacqen for the first time and she states that something in his voice reminded her of Syrio, but she couldn't explain what. Despite all the naysayers I am convinced the Jacqen and Syrio are one in the same. Syrio got caught, was sent to the black cells and changed his face. The guards just cleaned out the cells and sent him to the nights watch. I think Rorge and Biter may have seen him change faces, and that was why they were so scared of him.Syrio and Jaqen both having spent some time in Braavos, they might have similar accents. Especially for a girl who has met almost no one from outside Westeros.Syrio is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sword of the Mourning Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Syrio is dead. Ser Meryn didn't say anything because he didn't know Syrio was the first Sword of Bravos. That, or he bragged during a time a POV wasn't around. Time does pass without the reader present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr Baller Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Choose your own adventure for Syrio. We don't see him die, and his role in the story is ended, so it seems you can decide for yourself whether he is alive or dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 We didn't see Syrio die. He's been presumed dead about as long as Benjen , and I don't think either one is dead.I know it's long , but I think the following makes a plausible case for where Syrio could be :Just consider the break down of the fire , and the way Jaqen interacts with Arya , and it's not at all far fetched as compared to other story arcs.Cersei does comment ..she says they would have had Arya , but the "wretched dancing master" interfered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szar Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, no.The whole point of the scene is that Arya realizes Syrio doesn't stand a chance. She's just seen him dispatch five Lannister guardsmen with a wooden sword, yet she still realizes that Syrio is a dead man walking when Meryn Trant pulls his sword out. He had no way to defend himself, no way to flee, and no way to seriously injure Trant.He's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Crow Come Over Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Zero?Davos? Bran/Rickon? Hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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