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  1. Please give any evidence that Selmy surrendered to Robert as soon as Rhaegar was dead.
  2. @Bowen 747 Starting with the conclusion that "they will be brutal like the savages they are," before any of the 'logic' of the argument detracts from making this a real argument at all. Try again. (Your bias is showing like a thousand red flags.)
  3. This is in no way a small question. We don't know what happened, so pre-judging the situation is both oversimplifying and assuming too much.
  4. What most posts in this thread read like: Nothing could possibly be clearer in the interpretation of Westerosi law: characters that I like did NOT break guest right and characters that I do not like DID break guest right. Westerosi Statute Citations: 42 W.S.C. § 405(a). 42 W.S.C. § 405(r)(2) (209) (as amended in 215 by Pub. L. No. 114-74). 42 W.S.C. § 405(r)(2) (202) (prior to the 215 amendment).
  5. Not directed at you, @Lady Winter Rose My implication was that it is invalid for anyone to make the argument that any character arc can be labeled as anything before the arc is finished. Therefore, those arguments can be ignored.
  6. How can you label a character as a "Mary Sue" or a "Gary Stu" before a story is over? How a character's story ends is at least as important as the journey there, in terms of labeling them as such.
  7. ( This kind of thread is so handy to find users to block who willful ignore the books. )
  8. And countdown to the inevitable 'whataboutism,' Specific-character-hate, and moral relativism.... 3, 2,1...
  9. Who cares? Heck, listing who isn't guilty of violating guest right would be easier and shorter at this point. ETA: It's more about the how and the why of the violation. Characters will get the fate they deserve, it's fiction you know, that is how fiction works.
  10. Guilt of a 'crime' is of no consequence, since this is a book. Roose will get literary comeuppance, just like everyone else. Most characters of consequence that have met their end usually have done so via poetic justice related to their actions. I still believe that GRRM is of the Tom Stoppard school of writing, "The bad end unhappily, the good unluckily. That is what tragedy means."
  11. Here are some SSMs about titles and nobility levels. https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1203/ https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Asshai.com_Forum_Chat Look at the titles some of the mountain clans in the North, "The Liddle," "The Wull." They swear loyalty/fealty to either the Starks or some other level, title doesn't really matter. To paraphrase The Wild Bunch, "It don't matter that you gave your word! It's who you give it *to*!" Leaders in the North give and honor their word to individuals they believe in, not to titles. ETA In the past, they probably were all referred to as "The Stark" , "The Umber," "The Flint," "The Bolton," etc. They still often refer to "The Stark in Winterfell."
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