lentrix Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 If you believe that Aegon is a fake and In fact they are not 'all for' the Targaryen restoration. Then what is their plan ??? Especially are Varys always says ''what I do is for the realm".... seems to me that they are there just to cause kaos ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 if Aegon is fake and Varys knows it, i still think he is trying to get him on the throne.once you are on the throne it doesnt matter much if so and so was really your daddy(see Tommen&Joff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babeldygob Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I don't think that they share the same goal.I think that Illyrio is a Blackfyre loyalist and his wife was a Blackfyre descendant;I think that Varys will be the hardest nut to crack. I'm sure he's convinced Illyrio that he's in the same boat, but he has an ulterior motive.I think I believe Varys to be a magic-hater, but I'm not even sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lentrix Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 I can't work out Varys tbh ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuron Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think that Varys intentionally was causing Chaos in the realm in order to destabilize it to make an invasion easier. If they are thinking long-term, than a little chaos is acceptable if it means putting a Targ back on the throne.I'm not really sure it matters that Aegon is a Targ or a Blackfyre. A name is just a name, but it's the blood that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lentrix Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 But why does he want a Targ on the throne - why does it matter to him who is in power.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 i think its more important to Varys that he groomed "Aegon" and wants him on the throne, i dont think his level of Targness is important to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonstar Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 **Crackpot**Varys is actually Aegons father, he just pretends to be a eunuch. Aim/propose - put his son on the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Illyrio is the father of Aegon, whose mother is a Blackfyre. He wants Aegon on the throne and the Blackfyre line restored, even if that doesn't become public.Not sure about Varys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 **Crackpot**Varys is actually Aegons father, he just pretends to be a eunuch.Aim/propose - put his son on the Iron Throne.That's not too far from the standard Aegon Blackfyre-Mopatis theory, which assumes that Aegon is the son of Illyrio and the nephew (through Varys' sister and Illyrio's second wife) of Varys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Not sure about Varys.Serra is Varys's sister,or so people believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Illyrio is the Blackfyre descended along the female line. Varys is his agent and Aegon is his son by a bed slave from Lys, an illigitimate descendant of Aerion Brightflame. Illyrio sent Varys to KL to prepare the way for his heir. The GC wasn't enough to conquer the 7K so Illyrio arranged to have Drogo mary Dany for his support. Viserys and Dany would have given legitimacy to Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattah84 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Illyrio and Varys' loyalty lies with Doran Martell. Varys probably negotiated the marriage between Rhaegar and Elia. Varys snuck Aegon out of Kings Landing before the sack because of his Martell Blood. Varys was much more secretive about Aegons location, over that of Dany and Viserys, probably because of Martell Blood. Varys told Aerys not to open up the gates for Tywin to save himself, and Elia and her daughter because of Martell blood. Varys was not expecting a pardon from King Robert. Varys probably told Doran about Cerseis plot to kill Trystane since we don't know who did. Also it clears up loose ends like why Varys told Kevan that Aegon is alive and meant to rule, and then Arianne Martell going to see Aegon in the WOW preview chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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