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Orgin of House Stark in theory.


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#1 The Black Hawk

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 07:57 PM

I firmly bielieve that the Targs will not have the time in the spotlight for saving in Westeros. The Starks will and as they are the last great house descended from the First Men and the founder of house was not Bran the Bulider but the Last Hero was founder of the house. He was also the one who built the Nights Watch and was the wielder of LightBringer. His name was Stark just Stark as the First Men were inspired by the Celts and the Celts had only one name and I think the Last Heros was Stark. So he had a wife which was Nissa Nissa and the Long Night was going on so he and other First Men form a united military force to stop the others. The Nights Watch was born not with the vows. So this military force ride out to fight and leaving Stark the only left in conrdinace with the Last Hero story. So he teams up with COTF and following the Azor Ahai story gives up fame pride crowns and his wife also I bielieve she was pregnant at the time with Brandon and she was dying from the birth and Stark killed her to save her pain. So Stark defeats the others with Lightbringer breaking and his now grown son as he would been fighting the others for years. Brandon builds the wall and Nights watch holding it.



Edited by The Black Hawk, 12 August 2013 - 08:10 PM.


#2 Stannis Eats No Peaches

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:04 PM

How do you know Bran the Builder wasn't the Last Hero?

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:05 PM

I firmly bielieve that the Targs will not have the time in the spotlight for saving in Westeros. The Starks will and as they are the last great house descended from the First Men and the founder of house was not Bran the Bulider but the Last Hero was founder

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How do you know Bran the Builder wasn't the Last Hero?

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#4 Ser John Snow Tergaryan

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:28 PM

This is not a theory. In a theory you gather evidence and propose an idea. This is just an "idea". Borderline fanfiction, actually.

#5 Ser Greg of House House

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:35 PM

So he teams up with COTF and following the Azor Ahai story gives up fame pride crowns and his wife also I bielieve she was pregnant at the time with Brandon and she was dying from the birth and Stark killed her to save her pain.


It's sooo cute that you love Starks so much you can't conceive your perfect-Stark killing his wife. So the great sacrifice was to save her from the pain related to the birth. Cute, cute, cute. I just hope doctors don't start euthanazing women giving birth just because they're in pain.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:41 PM

So he teams up with COTF and following the Azor Ahai story gives up fame pride crowns and his wife also I bielieve she was pregnant at the time with Brandon and she was dying from the birth and Stark killed her to save her pain.

That's not a sacrifice, that's a mercy and while it would've been hard for him to do, it's not in the same league as a genuine sacrifice.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:08 PM

It's sooo cute that you love Starks so much you can't conceive your perfect-Stark killing his wife. So the great sacrifice was to save her from the pain related to the birth. Cute, cute, cute. I just hope doctors don't start euthanazing women giving birth just because they're in pain.

Well, come now. That's a dramatic and unfounded leap from the premise within the OP nor does it add to the conversation.

#8 Ser Greg of House House

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

Well, come now. That's a dramatic and unfounded leap from the premise within the OP nor does it add to the conversation.


Yeah. But the OP is absurd anyway. What could anyone add to it?

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:12 PM

Yeah. But the OP is absurd anyway. What could anyone add to it?

It's a theory, we can agree or disagree with it. I also happen to disagree as well but not sure I understand the need to mock a legitimate attempt to engage with the text.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:20 PM

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#11 Ser Greg of House House

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 11:50 AM

It's a theory, we can agree or disagree with it. I also happen to disagree as well but not sure I understand the need to mock a legitimate attempt to engage with the text.


He didn't engage with the text. He engaged with his own imagination and that's it. That is not a theory.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 11:57 AM

This is not a theory. In a theory you gather evidence and propose an idea. This is just an "idea". Borderline fanfiction, actually.

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Seriously, zero evidence. Who's to say that the Last hero was not a Lannister bastard by Lord Bolton's daughter by his Frey wife? (Yes, I know those houses didn't exist yet)

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#13 KingInTheCave

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:00 PM

Black Hawk, you say you firmly believe this theory. May I ask why? You have provided no evidence for it whatsoever.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:00 PM

How do you know Bran the Builder wasn't the Last Hero?

OP clearly states that Last Hero's name was just Stark and links it to Celts.

Brandon's name is Brandon.

Pay attention!

Edited by C0bR, 13 August 2013 - 12:01 PM.


#15 KingInTheCave

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:02 PM

Black Hawk, may I also ask why do you keep coming up with theories that are in complete contradiction to one another?

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

Thank you for making my lunch hour more entertaining Black Hawk. I just do not see any evidence to support your theory.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:22 PM

"the Celts dis not have last names" they had tribal and patrilineal additions to their given name.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:40 PM

He was one of the First Men i'll give you that much.
A proto stark is a possibility,But so is a Proto Dayne.I believe that Bran the Builder and this Last Hero were contemporaries.

#19 Ser Greg of House House

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

Though it's possible, I don't think Bran the Builder and the Last Hero lived at the same time. Supposedly the Last Hero lived in harsh times through a long winter. Great constructions make more sense in the summer, where there's enough food to supply workers.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:28 PM

Thank you for making my lunch hour more entertaining Black Hawk. I just do not see any evidence to support your theory.

and you never will. I sugest BH to stay at Jon's parentage theories.