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If Rhaego & Drogo didn't die


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#1 Arcanon

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

So I find myself curious about what people think would have happened if Daenerys and Drogo's son Rhaego as well as Drogo himself didn't die. If Rhaego was born and grew up.. If Daenerys took the Iron throne would she have claimed it for herself or given it to Rhaego ruling as his reagent until he came of age.
According to a law practiced by the targs only males can inherit so technically Rhaego would be the rightful heir to the throne and not her unless you could the sucession changing with Roberts conquest.
But would that even matter to Dany?

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:04 AM

If Rhaego and Drogo didn't die the i dont think that Dany would have been able to hatch the dragon eggs. Blood magic may have played an important role in the hatching of the eggs; "Only death can pay for life". Without dragons I dont believe that even 100,000 Dothraki would have been able to conquer Westeros.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:14 AM

If Rhaego and Drogo didn't die the i dont think that Dany would have been able to hatch the dragon eggs. Blood magic may have played an important role in the hatching of the eggs; "Only death can pay for life". Without dragons I dont believe that even 100,000 Dothraki would have been able to conquer Westeros.

Don't forget she would have Dorne aswell.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:16 AM

So I find myself curious about what people think would have happened if Daenerys and Drogo's son Rhaego as well as Drogo himself didn't die. If Rhaego was born and grew up.. If Daenerys took the Iron throne would she have claimed it for herself or given it to Rhaego ruling as his reagent until he came of age.
According to a law practiced by the targs only males can inherit so technically Rhaego would be the rightful heir to the throne and not her unless you could the sucession changing with Roberts conquest.
But would that even matter to Dany?


This is simply not true. The Dance w/ Dragons was an example of a king naming his oldest female the heir. Yes, it caused a war based on some people's notion of succession laws, but it 100% disproves that 'targ law' says only males can inherit. If it was 'targ law' the king wouldn't have been able to succeed and there wouldn't have been a war because she would have said "yep, according to all our laws my father couldn't name me heir". The war shows that there is ambiguity to say the least over that common thought.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

If they all survived then Daenerys would never have ruled anything.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

Don't forget she would have Dorne aswell.


Without dragons I dont think Dorne would support her especially if she showed up with an invading force of Dothraki who Westeros view as savages. Also the Dothraki are less than useless at sea and would probably lose half their numbers crossing the Narrow sea.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:23 AM

And to answer the OP, it they could take the IT Drogo would have been king, Dany queen, and Rhaego would be the crowned prince until Drogo died.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:28 AM

Rhaego would have been The Stallion That Mounts The World.

Blood magic and all other types of sacrifices seem to work with the value of who you sacrifice. Mel wanted to sacrifice Edric Storm because he had kings blood and there are lots of other examples. If she sacrifices some regular person then the payoff is a lot less then it would be if she sacrificed someone important.

The sacrifice of Rhaego and Drogo was enough to hatch three dragons. In life Drogo was a pretty powerful person but just imagine what that's saying about Rhaego. His life is the value of 3 dragons so I imagine that if he was alive, he would probably be the most powerful person in Planetos.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:38 AM

Rhaego would have been The Stallion That Mounts The World.

Blood magic and all other types of sacrifices seem to work with the value of who you sacrifice. Mel wanted to sacrifice Edric Storm because he had kings blood and there are lots of other examples. If she sacrifices some regular person then the payoff is a lot less then it would be if she sacrificed someone important.

The sacrifice of Rhaego and Drogo was enough to hatch three dragons. In life Drogo was a pretty powerful person but just imagine what that's saying about Rhaego. His life is the value of 3 dragons so I imagine that if he was alive, he would probably be the most powerful person in Planetos.


Assuming that the crones were even correct in their interpretation of the prophecy that Rhaego and not Dany/Drogon is The Stallion That Mounts The World.

#10 Sir Tan Lee

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:40 AM

Assuming that the crones were even correct in their interpretation of the prophecy that Rhaego and not Dany/Drogon is The Stallion That Mounts The World.


Fair point but that doesn't negate the fact that Rhaego's sacrifice was worth the life of three dragons.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:09 PM

Fair point but that doesn't negate the fact that Rhaego's sacrifice was worth the life of three dragons.


Not true. Drogo and MMD were sacrificed as well.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Dany has had to experience certain "trials" to become The Mother of Dragons. Sadly the loss of the life she wanted (her family, both in terms of her childhood family and her husband and child), was what made her who she is today. I believe if Drogo and Rhaego had lived she would have simply been Khaleesi, it would have been her son that made an impact, and possibly not a good one as he'd be raised Dothraki.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

Don't forget she would have Dorne aswell.

How? She could not marry Quentyn nor aegon...then Dorne would be either with aegon because of arianne marrying Aegon, or with the IT, for Trystane marrying Myrcella.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:26 PM

Not true. Drogo and MMD were sacrificed as well.


They were, but as we've seen before, regular people don't spawn dragons when their sacrificed. I just find it more likely that Rhaego and Drogo (especially Rhaego) contributed more to the price of three dragons then MMD.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:30 PM

Jon would destroy that army at any cost. For the people he loves.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:26 PM

This is simply not true. The Dance w/ Dragons was an example of a king naming his oldest female the heir. Yes, it caused a war based on some people's notion of succession laws, but it 100% disproves that 'targ law' says only males can inherit. If it was 'targ law' the king wouldn't have been able to succeed and there wouldn't have been a war because she would have said "yep, according to all our laws my father couldn't name me heir". The war shows that there is ambiguity to say the least over that common thought.

Except those laws didn't exist until AFTER The Dance w/ Dragons.. They Exist because of that event as well

Edited by Arcanon, 26 August 2013 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:06 PM

Aegon and company come behind them and wipe them out.