Quiet Isle Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 There is some school of thought that Tyrion is not Tywin's son. That Tywin was gone for a bit doing his job, and that the Mad King forced Lady Lannister into having relations. If you will recall, it was said that the previous dragons gradually died out after hatching some grotesque and small and unhealthy baby dragons. and i assume they cracked open the shell. If you use that both literally and metaphorically, then if indeed Tyrion is a Targaryen, and one of a mad corrupted king, this could well be a legacy of that line. and the dragon cracking open the dragon shell would be a metaphor of having split open his mother upon birth and causing her death. Just something to ponder. it also makes him NOT a KINSLAYER. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 ok this, is entering the realm of crackpot haha. Not everyone is a secret Targaryen. And it has been through great lengths to "prove" that Tyrion is Tywins son. IN fact, Tywins own sister tells Jaime that Tyrion is more of Tywins son than he is.Interesting, just not plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Dagoghlor Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Very interesting theory, but I'd personally be very disappointed if Tyrion turned out to be a Targaryen. It would detract from the relationship between him and Tywin and make Genna's statement to Jaime about Tyrion being Tywin's true son irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armidil0 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Can you please not title your threads in all caps? It's annoying. Not common courtesy. Also it (at least for me) gives the impression that you're trolling, or not serious. But hey, I'm not anything near important on this forum, so ignore me if you want.I don't think Tyrion is a bastard of Aerys'. Solely because there's not much to it that can't be explained in another way, If everyone was a bastard of a Targaryen, the story would start to get stale, imo. Also it would ruin Tyrions character for me. His whole personality is one giant daddy issue, and if you take that away Tyrion really doesn't have any substance or personality/character at all. .ETA: This has been discussed before on a couple of threads into detail, iirc. I think the talks ended in a plausible, but not likely. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I'd like this, I've heard the theory before. I don't think Tyrion would give a shit, however. Edit: Oh, yeah, I forgot about the quote of Genna Lannister.. :VNow, it would be more fun if Jaime and Cersei were the children of the Mad King.. :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I'd like this, I've heard the theory before. I don't think Tyrion would give a shit, however. Edit: Oh, yeah, I forgot about the quote of Genna Lannister.. :VNow, it would be more fun if Jaime and Cersei were the children of the Mad King.. :cool4:thats what i was thinking as well. Jaime and Cersei would almost certainly fit the bill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 thats what i was thinking as well. Jaime and Cersei would almost certainly fit the bill..Making Jaime a kinslayer. Cursed by gods and men. But I like Jaime. xO A bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meeraculous Third Reed Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 NO HE ISN'T (if we're dealing only in Caps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Joker Of FunLand Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 thats what i was thinking as well. Jaime and Cersei would almost certainly fit the bill..Which is funny, because the "Every time a Targ is born, the Gods flip a coin" comment would make even more sense, since Cersei is mad and Jaime isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Making Jaime a kinslayer. Cursed by gods and men.But I like Jaime. xO A bit.Kingslayer negative the "g" haha. I like Jaime too, and I think in the next two books his story is going to continue to grow....so I just hope there are no more secret Targs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Which is funny, because the "Every time a Targ is born, the Gods flip a coin" comment would make even more sense, since Cersei is mad and Jaime isn't.yep it would!! haha But she isn't mad in the sense of madness that the Targs were....she just became that way because of her own vanity and narcissism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Yes, Tyrion is Aerys's son.No, it is not becoming stale, because Aegon is a fake, and Cersei and Jaime are of course not Targs. That's a ridiculous theory based in its entirety on Cersei madly burning the Tower of the Hand. So Jon and Tyrion are the only 2 unknown Targs.It does not invalidate Genna's comments, instead, it adds great irony to her words, because it shows that the son that is the closest to Tywin in character, is actually not his son, and implies that Tywin is not all that different from old Mad Aerys, whom he hated.And lastly, it adds the great irony that the two Lannister brothers - Jaime and Tyrion - ended up killing each other's fathers.Not to mention all the other hints like Tyrion casting the shadow of a king in Jon's words in book 1, or Tyrion having pale blond hair compared to the Lannister gold, or Tyrion being obsessed with dragons, or the whole story about Aerys lusting after Joanna, or the fact that Tyrion being a Targ will make the dragons like him a heck of a lot once he joins up with Daenerys.Oh yes, Tyrion is a Targ. There is little doubt about it, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Yes, Tyrion is Aerys's son.No, it is not becoming stale, because Aegon is a fake, and Cersei and Jaime are of course not Targs. That's a ridiculous theory based in its entirety on Cersei madly burning the Tower of the Hand. So Jon and Tyrion are the only 2 unknown Targs.It does not invalidate Genna's comments, instead, it adds great irony to her words, because it shows that the son that is the closest to Tywin in character, is actually not his son, and implies that Tywin is not all that different from old Mad Aerys, whom he hated.And lastly, it adds the great irony that the two Lannister brothers - Jaime and Tyrion - ended up killing each other's fathers.Not to mention all the other hints like Tyrion casting the shadow of a king in Jon's words in book 1, or Tyrion having pale blond hair compared to the Lannister gold, or Tyrion being obsessed with dragons, or the whole story about Aerys lusting after Joanna, or the fact that Tyrion being a Targ will make the dragons like him a heck of a lot once he joins up with Daenerys.Oh yes, Tyrion is a Targ. There is little doubt about it, in my view.the only reason I'm even entertaining this is because I recall something about a Targ having two different colored eyes....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 The reason I'm entertaining it is because it's blindingly obvious thanks to all the hints Martin has provided for us.Tyrion somehow ending up meeting Jon and counseling him as a friend in Book 1, unlikely as it is, given the enmity between their families? That contrived situation will turn out to have been Jon receiving counsel from his yet to be revealed uncle Tyrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 hmm also it would fit that Dany, Jon, and Tyrion all killed their moms during child birth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Oberyn_ Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I dont like it but is deffinitely heading in that direction. Definitely not crackpot but hopefully a red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 3 heads of the Dragon. What a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Hand Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 hmm also it would fit that Dany, Jon, and Tyrion all killed their moms during child birth..I thought Lyana died of a fever. And Tyrion being a Targ WOULD explain alot, but it just seems too far-fetched for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 This is golden oldie amongst theoriesTyrion as a targaryentyrion is aerys' soni personally think tyrion is a targaryenwhat's with the theory about tyrion being a targaryen& no doubt many more.Not really any evidence though and it would be a pity considering how intense the Tywin-Tyrion relationship was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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