AvengerofWinterfell Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Maybe someone can help me out here. I know that Tywin brokered the marriage of Tyrion to Sansa in order to prevent her from being wed to a Tyrell, but why did Sansa agree to it? Even if she didnt object when it was prompted to her, she couldve objected during the ceremony or simply not said the vows. I know the Laws of Westeros dont give many rights to women, but I believe it does offer them that one. Seeing as how she had no love for Tyrion and she knew the Tyrell offer was out there, why go through with marrying Tyrion? Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gougef Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Surely you jest :eek:EDIT: Seriously, she had more/less had a death threat over her head for months, plus she had being surviving this way for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Because Cersei promised to torture and wed her to Tyrion if she objected instead of just wedding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Sister Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Because she had no option, Cersei tells her that she is going to be married no matter what, so she can either go peacefully or kicking and screaming, she has no allies in KL who can help her avoid the marriage, and the Tyrells can't do anything about it without risking the Tyrell-Lannister alliance.And she didn't have time to plan anything to avoid it either, because they don't tell her about it until the very same day. Cersei tells her she is marrying Tyrion while they are getting Sansa ready to go to the sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Because Tyrion is irresistible to any woman, of course. So handsome, so kind, so gentle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady m Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 You're kidding, right? Sansa was a prisoner of the Lannisters. During her time as their guest, she'd been severely beaten, and publicly shamed on multiple occasions. She has zero agency, nor is she allowed any right to decline by the Lannisters. That's why she refuses to kneel, it's the only manner of protest allowed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groat Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 OP I kind of get what your saying. She could tell the septon point blank that she refuses to marry Tyrion, and I feel fairly confident that the wedding would never be considered valid if Sansa point blank refused to say any of the words or perform other ceremonies involved in the wedding.However, she is a 12 year old girl at the time, who has been beaten and abused by Joffrey for quite a while. It's not that hard to force a 12 year old girl to do something when she's deathly afraid of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eating My Wings Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 "I understand your reluctance. Cry if you must. In your place, I would likely rip my hair out. He's a loathsome little imp, no doubt of it, but marry him you shall.""You can't make me.""Of course we can. You may come along quietly and say your vows as befits a lady, or you may struggle and scream and make a spectacle for the stableboys to titter over, but you will end up wedded and bedded all the same." The queen opened the door. Ser Meryn Trant and Ser Osmund Kettleblack were waiting without, in the white scale armor of the Kingsguard. "Escort Lady Sansa to the sept," she told them. "Carry her if you must, but try not to tear the gown, it was very costly-"Sansa tried to run, but Cersei's handmaid caught her before she'd gone a yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Freypie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The only choice she had was between Tyrion and Lancel.And while Tyrion did protect them in some extent against Joffrey mistreatments, she had no reason at all to trust Lancel to do the same (also after loving Joffrey for his appearance, she may have considered chosing another Lannister for his beauty only was a bad idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealbando Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 As others have said before she didn`t have much of a choice.Because Tyrion is irresistible to any woman, of course. So handsome, so kind, so gentle...Also this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flig Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 OP I kind of get what your saying. She could tell the septon point blank that she refuses to marry Tyrion, and I feel fairly confident that the wedding would never be considered valid if Sansa point blank refused to say any of the words or perform other ceremonies involved in the wedding.However, she is a 12 year old girl at the time, who has been beaten and abused by Joffrey for quite a while. It's not that hard to force a 12 year old girl to do something when she's deathly afraid of you.I wholeheartedly agree with everything in that post, but I'm fairly certain Sansa was 14 at that time. Doesn't change anything, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcb Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Maybe someone can help me out here. I know that Tywin brokered the marriage of Tyrion to Sansa in order to prevent her from being wed to a Tyrell, but why did Sansa agree to it? Even if she didnt object when it was prompted to her, she couldve objected during the ceremony or simply not said the vows. I know the Laws of Westeros dont give many rights to women, but I believe it does offer them that one. Seeing as how she had no love for Tyrion and she knew the Tyrell offer was out there, why go through with marrying Tyrion? Did I miss something?Well, you apparently missed Sansa being beaten and abused on several occasions. She could say no... just like Theon could say no to Ramsay (the abuse in both cases isn't comparable, but the fear is still there, it's real and it's completely justified). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I wholeheartedly agree with everything in that post, but I'm fairly certain Sansa was 14 at that time. Doesn't change anything, though.Sansa was born in 286The marriage happened sometime(late) in 299 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I wholeheartedly agree with everything in that post, but I'm fairly certain Sansa was 14 at that time. Doesn't change anything, though.No. She was still 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Beers Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 In reality she did have a choice. Every action requires choice from someone at some time. Yet if your boss yells at you a bit for being late, do you choose to tell him/her to suck it? You may want to, but the consequence is greater than the reward. Sansa's case is even more extreme. She could be murdered at any point if she doesn't please her captures. Ideally she would tell the Lannisters to fuck off, but she would have paid with her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flig Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Sansa was born in 286The marriage happened sometime(late) in 299 I believe.Whoops, I keep thinking the new century came with the Red Comet instead of when it actually came near the end of ASoS. My bad. I'm not too good with timelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerofWinterfell Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 "I understand your reluctance. Cry if you must. In your place, I would likely rip my hair out. He's a loathsome little imp, no doubt of it, but marry him you shall.""You can't make me.""Of course we can. You may come along quietly and say your vows as befits a lady, or you may struggle and scream and make a spectacle for the stableboys to titter over, but you will end up wedded and bedded all the same." The queen opened the door. Ser Meryn Trant and Ser Osmund Kettleblack were waiting without, in the white scale armor of the Kingsguard. "Escort Lady Sansa to the sept," she told them. "Carry her if you must, but try not to tear the gown, it was very costly-"Sansa tried to run, but Cersei's handmaid caught her before she'd gone a yard.guess I just missed it or forgot, thanks for the quote.Well, you apparently missed Sansa being beaten and abused on several occasions. She could say no... just like Theon could say no to Ramsay (the abuse in both cases isn't comparable, but the fear is still there, it's real and it's completely justified).no i remember those instances quite well but at the same time what would lead her to believe that that wouldnt continue or worsen if she's married to one of them? I just couldnt recall if there was a specific threat levied against her in regard to the marriage to ensure her compliance or not, because the other events could continue or even worsen once she said I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daario's man Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Before the wedding Tyrion asks if she wishes to go through with it or if she'd prefer to marry Lancel, she knows she has no choice other than to get married so chooses the man who has protected her in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 wowshe was forced to marryhow can she says no if she's a hostage to the LannistersTyrion didn't want as well, but he couldn't refuse an order coming from Tywinis this question serious? :drunk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon stark I Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Maybe OP is trying to say that she could have asked the protection of the Faith after she said no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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