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You talk out of the side of your neck and show no evidence to back up your claims about Dany, Jon, and Sansa. I produce evidence from the book and show and you go and pull a straw man out of your ass and start making up shit. It is clear that you don't have a leg to stand on in these arguments.

You pointing out my typos just shows you have no argument. It doesn't matter if we used the the books or the show for our character reference Sansa's hardships are no where close to Dany's even when you add D&D's Ramsey plot line.

I know Drogon never beat her but he did rape her when she was a child and Viserys did beat her. You just can't compare Sansa to Dany in the show and most certainly not in the books because nothing tragic happened to her in the books. That why you keep bringing up Ramsey because without D&D adding him to Sansa's story you would have no sob story for Sansa.

That doesn't surprise me. You have no answer to my statement because your nonsense statements have no ground to stand on.

Sansa can't hold a candle to what Dany has been through. 1. Verbally and physically abused by her own brother throughout her childhood. 2, Raped multiple times by Khal Drogo when she was 13. 3. Impregnated by Khal Drogo when she is still a child. 4. Loses her child. 5. She is forced to kill Khal Drogo after he went brain dead. 6. Has multiple assassination attempts on her. 7. Has multiple close friends murdered while in Essos. 8. Is betrayed by her own friends. 9. She goes through dehydration and starvation while being stranded far away from Meereen for days. 10. She is captured by Moro and he threatens to have her raped by each of the khals, then by all of their bloodriders, and then, if she is still alive, by their horses. 11. She loses 2 of her dragons. 12. She watches Jorah get slashed stabbed to death. 13. She watches her best friend Missandei get decapitated.

In the books he did nothing to her because it wasn't her story and in the show not anything close to the multiple rapes and beatings Dany took from Drogo and Viserys when she was just a child. Get the fuck out of here with how Sansa had it so hard bullshit! Remember times when the Hound to saved Sansa from being raped and tired to save her from what was going to happened to her by Joffrey and Ramsey but she refused him because she was set on becoming a queen and sealed her own fate. Sansa had somebody to protect her and even had a way out. Dany had neither.

LMAO! Sansa didn't experience anything close to what Dany did. Not in the show and most certainly not in the books. To try and compare her story to Dany's is utterly ridiculous.

I listed all of the things Jon has done that were leading him to...nothing. D&D made his character irrelevant in S8. He did all of these heroic things in the previous seasons for it to be all for not in the finale.

You're are wrong in so many ways it's not even funny. I noticed that you didn't pick apart any of the quotes I used from the show which shows me you obviously have no argument with them. Her character is is pretty easy to understand: She does not want to be like any other Targaryen before her and she wants to break the wheel. No other character wants to change the system that is in place but her so this shows the watcher that she is on a very unique path of stopping the tyrannical rulers like she did in Essos and was going to do in Westeros. As you know D&D are not the original writers of the show so all of this "characterization"you keep repeating is null and void. D&D made up their mind to character assassinate Daenerys in one season and it's blatantly obvious. FYI. Dany went through way worst in Essos by losing Drogo, her son and many, many close friends and her character never wavered.

Exactly.

LMAO!

Oh, that makes sense. I see it now.

Yeah, they just made sure to make it impossible for her to be redeemed.

Your welcome. This has been on my mind and I just had to make a thread about it.

Man, what a brutal pun that is. SMH. This video really puts in perspective Dany's abrupt character change from a graceful leader to a tyrant. S02E05: The Ghost of Harrenhal Jorah - You have a good claim. A title. A birthright. But you have something more than that. You may cover it up and deny it, but you have a gentle heart. You would not only be respected and feared, you would be loved. Someone who can rule and should rule. S03E03 - Walk of Punishment. JORAH: If you want to sit on the throne your ancestors built you must win it, that will mean blood on your hands before the thing is done. DAENERYS: The blood of my enemies, not the blood of innocents. S05E01 - The Wars to Come DAARIO: You're not the Mother of Unsullied. You're the Mother of Dragons. DAENERYS: I don't want another child's bones dropped at my feet. S03E07 - The Bear and the Maiden Fair DAENERYS: How many slaves are there in Yunkai? JORAH: 200,000. If not more. DAENERYS: Then we have 200,000 reasons to take the city. S07E02 - Stormborn YARA: If you want the Iron Throne, take it. We have an army, a fleet, and three dragons.We should hit King's Landing now, hard, with everything we have. The city will fall within a day. TYRION: If we turn the dragons loose, tens of thousands will die in the firestorms. ELLARIA: It's called war. You don't have the stomach for it, scurry back into hiding. TYRION: I know how you wage war. We don't poison little girls here. Myrcella was innocent. ELLARIA: She was a Lannister. There are no innocent Lannisters. My greatest regret is that Oberyn died fighting for you. DAENERYS: That's enough. Lord Tyrion is Hand of the Queen. You will treat him with respect. I am not here to be queen of the ashes. OLENNA: That's very nice to hear. Of course, I can't remember a queen who was better loved than my granddaughter. The common people loved her. The nobles loved her. And what is left of her now? Ashes. S07E05 - Eastwatch DAENERYS: I know what Cersei has told you. That I've come to destroy your cities, burn down your homes, murder you, and orphan your children. That's Cersei Lannister, not me. I'm not here to murder, and all I want to destroy is the wheel that has rolled over rich and poor to the benefit of no one but the Cersei Lannisters of the world. S07E06 - Beyond the Wall TYRION: Nobody trusts my sister less than I do, believe me. But if we go to the capital, we'll go with two armies, we'll go with three dragons, and anyone touches you, King's Landing burns down to the foundation stone. DAENERYS: And right now she's thinking of how to set a trap. TYRION: Of cours she is. And she's wondering what trap you're laying for her. DAENERYS: Are we? Laying any traps? TYRION: If we want to create a new and better world, I'm not sure deceit and mass murder is the best way to start. DAENERYS: Which war was won without deceit and mass murder? TYRION: Yes, you'll need to be ruthless if you're going to win the throne. You need to inspire a degree of fear. But fear is all Cersei has. It's all my father had And Joffrey. It makes their power brittle. Because everyone beneath them longs to see them dead.