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  1. Isildur's Mane

    Why Did the Show Turn on Jon?

    My theroy is that they have never really liked Jon's character. I think they might have thought Jon, as a character, was too ... cliche for them. They wanted to subvert the story and thought by putting in all these twists (Arya killing the NK) that they will subvert the story and shock the viewers. But then what is left is a character who just goes around saying "she's my quuueeen" "I dont want it" and not much else. All my opinion, obviously.
  2. So this is going to be rambley but so be it. Why would there still be a Nights Watch? The White Walkers were defeated, the wall broken and the wildlings joined to the Norths cause. What point is there for a Nights Watch? What was the point of Jon coming back to life? Just to kill Dany? Arya could've done that. What was the point of being a Targaryan? Just to foil Dany? I feel like the writers were like "Jon gets everything.... so lets take it all away". There was so much build up for his character in the early sessions (and all through the books) and it just fell limp. But hey, he got to pat Ghost in the end and desert and go live with the wildlings. Also, if Bran only sent Jon to the NW because of the Unsullied... couldn't Bran have just pretended? They were leaving for Naarth anyway. How would they know? Arya did nothing in the last 2 episodes. She didn't even need to be in KL. I don't get why she learnt how to change faces from the faceless men.... She hardly used those powers. ANd leaving to see what was "west of Westeros" Sorry, but that just felt some fan servicey. And Bronn as Master of Coin? AND lord of High Garden? Does he even have the skills? Just give him the Gold Cloaks or something. And Bran king...... Does HE even have the ability? Stories unite people, yes, but that doesn't mean they'd follow you or obey you. WHat has he shown anyone about how qualified he'd be at ruling? I just don't see it. I know book Bran and show Bran are 2 different people, but I can't see how either would be good in the current climate. I just feel like the writers missed the point of the story completely. I feel that the point of the story, or so I see it so far in the books, is that all this in fighting is stupid. That they should unite together to fight the common enemey (the others). Not fight each other, have an interlude of a "long night" and then go back to fighting each other. ANd then once that is done, the North splits off and somehow the fighting has stopped. eh.... this has got me all empty inside. But I still have hope... I still hope the books will come out soon and I trust GRRM to show us how it's meant to be.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 806?

    I gave it a 5 because I did like the cinematography. And Jon and Ghost made up. Everything else though.... It's not good enough to just look pretty. Music was good too.
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    Rant & Rave without Repercussion: Burn It All Edition

    I haven't had a chance to read all the comments, I just haven't had the time. But here is my rant. Be warned, I'm a bit angry and disappointed. I actually felt slightly sorry that Varys died in the show, whereas in the book I kind of can't wait to see how he dies. I have a feeling it could be Arya that kills him, but I could be totally wrong. Also Euron and Jaime? I mean WTF? I just don't get it? Where was the lead up? What was the point? I so hate how they destroyed both their characters. I'm not really an Iron Born fan, but they really tamed Euron and the irks me. Euron was meant to make Ramsey look like a tame puppy, I'm not sure why they held back on that one. And Jaime.... really, reallly hate how his story line ended with him regressing to what he was before the series started. Did they really just have Jaime leave Cersei at the end of season 7 to fuck Brienne? What a pathetic, forced plot point that was. It reduces Brienne to just a knotch on a bedpost and throws any of Jaime's redemption arc out the window (pun not intended... or is it?). ANd Cersei's death! Is it sad that I still held onto a thin strand of hope that Jaime will kill Cersei in their last moments? Cleganbowl... I'm torn between how I feel about it. I want the Hound to kill him in the books, I really do. But at the same time, I hope it doesn't happen. It feels fan fictiony, but maybe that's because of all the hype. Jon Snow- his character has been pointless for awhile now. Why did they bring him back from the dead? What purpose has or will he serve? What is the point? If it's just to fall in love with Dany to then kill her.... that just feels forced. If he was still dead then Dany wouldn't have gone mad because she wouldn't have felt threatened by his claim. It's sad because in the books Jon is my favourite character. It's not necessarilly the acting that's done it, but the fact that the writers havent given him much to go on. They have been giving his lines to other characters for seasons now, bt this episode they basically had him running around, losing control of his men and just looking dumbstruck. Why did anyone choose hin to be king? Arya - Her scenes looked good. But why have her get almost to Cersei to then be turned away so that we can see the destruction of the city throw her eyes? Couldn't she have got to Cersei, but someone else kill Cersei first? Or something. It just felt too forced. And was that Shadowfax I saw at the end there? Tyrion. Wow... They really don't know how to write him. Ever since they past the books he has fallen flat. Also, when he was waiting for the bells to ring I was taken to LotR, Return of the King, where Gandalf gets Pippin to climb the tower to light the beacon and thought that Tyrion was going to do the same thing with te bells... I'm kind of glad they didn't... but at the same time it would have given Tyrion something to do. Dany - They really needed to forshadow this change into madness more. I'm not upset that they did this, I always thought she would go mad or atleast have her story be a tragedy where she see herself become her father or something along those line. But it can't just be a switch. D&D, for some reason, think that sudden, surprising, shocking moments is how to subvert tropes. But audiences demand more these days. They want entertainment that is intelligent and challengng. This could have been done so much better and still have the audience in shock.... But D&Dseem to miss the point... Golden company? What Golden Company? Same with the Iron Born fleet. I'm sure I've missed some things, but it's getting late. I did like the visuals and a lot of the acting was done well (provided they were given things to actually work with). Tyrion and Jaime's goodbye was heartfelt (even if I was against Tyrion actually caring about Cersei in the end). Will I watch the next episode? Probably... but only because I need to see this through now. I really can't wait for the books.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 805?

    I gave it 4/10.... Some bits looked nice and how Tyrion and Jaime got emotional saying goodbye (not the how and whys of the scene... that made me roll my eye a few times) but I could feel their emotions and it was touching when they hugged. The rest just felt forced and made no logical sense.
  6. I feel exactly the same
  7. I will be disappointed if this is not the ending
  8. It's like, they are trying to hard to echo moments that happened earlier in the season.... no matter how forced it seems
  9. So why did show characters make him King? I don't get why they named him their king and not Sansa their Queen.
  10. I really think they could've handled Jon and Ghost better. It was just so heart braking seeing Ghost so upset and then Jon not even able to say goodbye. He can give a proper goodbye to Sam, what about Ghost? Rhaegal went down way too easily. It shouldn't be that easy to kill a dragon. Jaime's story doesn't make sense any more. I hope he is going there to kill Cersei, but for some reason I doubt it.
  11. I agree with this and I really don't get how the characters in show think Jon is such a great guy and worthy to be King. I mean, what has he done? I would also say that they haven't really portrayed him properly from the start. All the way in the first season they would give his lines to Sam or someone else, and even thought that is only small, it changes Jon's character slightly. So instead of Jon coming up with an idea and showing the audience he is smart and a born leader, it's Sam or someone else. And then those changes got bigger and bigger. And then, instead of Jon coming into his own, he is getting saved by Sansa and the Vale army. Sorry, Jon's my favourite book character and it's really pissed me off how he has been portrayed in the show.
  12. Bronn hasn't been making sense for seasons. I like him in the books and I liked him in the show too....until he went to Dorne with Jaime. From there on both characters fell apart for me. Bronn should be sitting in his castle, gathering sellswords with a bastard stepson named Tyrion. He shouldn't be fighting for the Lannisters still. Cersei should be wanting to kill him just for working for Tyrion.
  13. Didn't also Daeron, the rogue prince, marry Rhaenyra, his niece? All I'm saying is it isn't something foreign for them. This is something that has happened (in both Stark and Targ history) and is something that they can fall back on if they need to.
  14. Guys! I've figured out what Qyburn did to those ballistas to make them better . He made them heat seeking! That's why Eurine was able to shoot down Rhaegal from behind a rock/island without actually being able to see him Seriously though... How on earth did they manage to shoot down Rhaegal so easily? Without out Dany or the dragons seeing a fleet of ships. And why couldn't Dany burn a few ships while she was there?
  15. I really don't like how Jon and Ghost parted ways. Like I said somewhere else it felt like he was saying goodbye to a pet he met at a random party, or to an animal he only slightly fond of. And Rhaegal's death, I felt nothing for! The whole time I was thinking, it shouldn't be that easy to kill him. I'm not sure what everyone has against an aunt marrying a nephew. We think its gross but in story its common. Wasn't there a Stark ancestor who married and aunt of uncle? I'm 99% positive on this. So when Varys and Tyrion were having their little chat and about this on the ship I had so many eye rolls. The only bad incest in their world is sibling to sibling or parent to child. Im really, really tired of this forced, petty bitchy infighting between Sansa and Daenarys. It feels so wrong. If Daenarys really feels threatened by Jon can't she just marry him? then they'd both rule together. I still don't know why they persist with Missandei and Grey Worm's romance. I know its been going for a few seasons and all, and I've hated every minute of it. In saying that, I did think when Missandei dies it is powerfull. Would it have been more powerful if Missandei was a 11(?) year old girl? Maybe. ....(Not that I think the books will go the same way as how the show has gone) There is more I'm sure, but I can't think of them right now.
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