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On 10/8/2023 at 3:43 PM, BalerionTheCat said:

Only thing sure was Jon was to live.

It’s possible that the reason why Ned got so upset at the deaths of Rhaenys and baby Aegon was that he already knew or suspected that Lyanna might be pregnant with Rhaegar’s child, and that the same thing could happen to her own baby.

10 hours ago, frenin said:

And please, there's absolutely nothing Tywin could have done to the Martells, Tywin knows that and so should Doran.

Doran himself says that Dorne is incapable of winning a war on their own, which is why he has been so cautious all this time.

7 minutes ago, Odej said:

One thing must be said about the Lannisters, they achieved a feat that not even the Targaryens, with their reputation for madness, managed: generating monsters for three generations in a row: Tywin, Cersei and Joffrey.

Plus, wasn't Tywin a teenager when he "dealt with" the Reynes and Tarbecks? That's a completely different level of messed up.

2 hours ago, frenin said:

Yet he still nominally thre his lot with the Lannisters.

To be fair, I don't think he threw his lot with them. He was simply trying not to offend the most powerful family in the realm, especially given that Tywin was alive at that point.

13 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

Did people still do watch parties for HOTD, or was that strictly a GOT tradition?

I'm sure people have watch parties for pretty much anything these days.

On 10/8/2023 at 10:41 PM, Ran said:

Personally, it would make a lot of sense if she was Lord Whent's sister.

I guess it would mean that Ned killed one of Catelyn's uncles at the tower of joy. 

3 hours ago, John Suburbs said:

Could be, but even if it turns out to be the Green Grace or someone, the intent was not to kill Dany.

As someone else pointed out, honeyed locusts isn't the type of food that Dany would enjoy.

2 minutes ago, frenin said:

Doran only ever moves if he knows for certain he'll win

There was no guarantee that Dany was going to accept Quentyn's marriage proposal, though. That was quite a risky move.

5 hours ago, Thomaerys Velaryon said:

Cregan will be a bit antagonist towards Jace upon his arrival (typical stern/cold Stark) but he will warm up to him in time and potentially Sara Snow is thrown into the mix as well.

Although didn't Jace and Cregan become friends almost right away in F&B?

13 minutes ago, Lord of Raventree Hall said:

He has loose to no control over any of the Northern houses, they all hate him with a passion that burns in their souls, and they are all just basically biding their time to betray him.

Except the Karstarks and Barbery Dustin.

11 minutes ago, Lord of Raventree Hall said:

I think they are listed as just landed knights, and they use the title "Ser" not "Lord"

Maybe their rank is too low for lordship. 

7 minutes ago, Lord of Raventree Hall said:

Well I tried this in another spot (small questions) but didn't get it answered, so thought I'd try it here. Why are the Fossoway's not Lords? Actually, add the Tallhearts and Glovers in their as well. I've always found it strange as all three houses seem very important in their respective regions (certainly more important than others who are called "Lord"), yet they don't have the title lord. Why not? 

Aren't they lords of Cider Hall?

I think Ned not keeping a closer eye on Roose Bolton over the years also qualifies.

17 hours ago, Ran said:

Not really true. George and Ryan Condal discuss everything, but it's been indicated by both that at times the showrunner insists that something should happen a certain way and even if George isn't persuaded he'ill agree to disagree. Showrunner has the ultimate responsibility 

Condal is extremely solicitous of George and tries to align as much as possible with what George wants, but he also serves HBO and the perceived audience, and needs to take them into account.

Could it be that they simply needed a villain for the show’s Northern storyline, then?

On 10/7/2023 at 6:21 PM, The Dragon Demands said:

They built a physical set of the top of the Wall, and we saw a dozen Night's Watch rangers riding around in Bourne Wood for a night scene in a snowy forest. A leaked makeup department concept art board prominently labeled "UNDEAD" showed that we will see wights / zombies again in Season 2, implying a major invented storyline for Cregan and Jace.

And given that nothing on HOTD happens without GRRM's approval, this is curious indeed.

There is a theory that the Others/White Walkers awakened long ago in the Land of Always Winter, but didn't make the long way to the Wall until the GoT prologue. But now it seems like they've been around the Wall for more than a century.

9 minutes ago, SaffronLady said:

And you're suggesting Viserys can't do what Edric did because he was born wrong or something?

It's hard to make conclusions without knowing more about the characters. One might as well assume that Darkstar is the way he is because his mom didn't buy him that Green Day album when he was 13.

2 hours ago, Daeron the Daring said:

Now, of course, Littlefinger may need immediate and more extensive control over the Vale for some reason we are yet to be told, but Harry's also a pretty fucking wild card, if you ask me. I mean, it could work, and he might indebt him with Sansa for eternity, but still.

Back in 2002, GRRM said that Littlefinger would run into trouble soon because for all of his scheming, he doesn’t actually have an army. Obviously, a lot of time has passed since then, so we don't know if any of that is still in play.

@Ran Do we know how lord Walter Whent and Catelyn's mother Minisa Whent are related? If they were siblings, then it would mean that Catelyn had some pretty close relatives on the opposite side of Robert's Rebellion.

When Ned arrived at the Tower of Joy, he couldn't have known that Lyanna was going to die. So whatever plans he had must have been based on the assumption that she would live. 

What could those plans have been? Would he put both her and the baby into hiding somewhere?

2 hours ago, Werthead said:

For contrast, The Lies of Locke Lamora, a probably comparatively more massively-trailed, massively-hyped book ten years later (when the market was deemed to be significantly bigger), sold 15,000 copies in hardcover and tradeback and that was deemed a very big hit.

Although The Lies of Locke Lamora was Scott Lynch's debut novel, while GRRM had been an established author for many years by the time AGOT was published.

Maybe Sanderson's The Way of Kings would be a better comparison?

12 minutes ago, Alester Florent said:

5,000 copies in hardback. So 5,000 copies I the first 6-12 months.

Ah, okay. That does make much more sense.

36 minutes ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

Sansa lack Cat’s intelligence.

 Sansa has never lacked intelligence, but has been incredibly naive. Over the course of the story, she has slowly gotten rid of her naivety and is now becoming a player in the game of thrones. 

5 hours ago, SaffronLady said:

IIRC a live show is being made.

Isn't it supposed to be an animated show?

This image of Norvos reminds me a bit of the War Phra Kaew temple in Bangkok.

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/c/c5/FM_Norvos.png

50 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said:

King Aerys II is the Ramsay of House Targaryen

I'm not sure I agree on this one. Ramsay might be just as cruel, but he is way more pragmatic in his cruelty than Aerys was.