Banner Without Brothers Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If Bran can escape before Jon and his band of merry Night's Watch show up then he MUST have outside help. Hodor has just had a spear through his calf. He shouldn't be walking anywhere. Either Bran must be rescued by someone else or he's going to meet Jon. Unless they strap him to a dire wolf or something even then they'll be proceeding without Hodor. It will be highly unbelievable that Hodor will be fit for hiking through the snow carrying a teenage boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If Bran can escape before Jon and his band of merry Night's Watch show up then he MUST have outside help. Hodor has just had a spear through his calf. He shouldn't be walking anywhere. Either Bran must be rescued by someone else or he's going to meet Jon. Unless they strap him to a dire wolf or something even then they'll be proceeding without Hodor. It will be highly unbelievable that Hodor will be fit for hiking through the snow carrying a teenage boy. Just a thought but its not out of the realm of possibility that they steal a horse during their escape. Even if they do though, they'll still be moving fairly slow with Hodors injury, which is possibly where Jon and Co. come in, to distract the mutineers from going after Bran and Co. My concern with this whole deal isn't Jon and Bran meeting, which I think won't happen, but what Locke is going to do. I think somehow the Nights Watch find out that Bran was there, and in the confusion/aftermath of battle, Locke sneaks away to track Bran and finish him off. That might provide something more substantial than Bran and Co. wandering for awhile before they reach Bloodraven and the CotF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViennaGirl Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'd love to see them get together too, although it's so non-book. But I'd love it. I can see if happening this way - things are so bad in the Craster's battle that when Jon sees Bran, he tells him to RUN as fast as he can - just a 2 second conversation of "omg it's you, you have to get out of here now!" and they separate. It would have to be dire for Jon to do that - Jon would have to think that all of the good guys were going to be killed. But I can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banner Without Brothers Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Just a thought but its not out of the realm of possibility that they steal a horse during their escape. Even if they do though, they'll still be moving fairly slow with Hodors injury, which is possibly where Jon and Co. come in, to distract the mutineers from going after Bran and Co. My concern with this whole deal isn't Jon and Bran meeting, which I think won't happen, but what Locke is going to do. I think somehow the Nights Watch find out that Bran was there, and in the confusion/aftermath of battle, Locke sneaks away to track Bran and finish him off. That might provide something more substantial than Bran and Co. wandering for awhile before they reach Bloodraven and the CotF Oh yeah hadn't thought about horses :laugh: :dunce: And I like the rest of your theory too. I think that's one of the best I've read so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think somehow the Nights Watch find out that Bran was there, and in the confusion/aftermath of battle, Locke sneaks away to track Bran and finish him off. That might provide something more substantial than Bran and Co. wandering for awhile before they reach Bloodraven and the CotF Hmm . . . could Locke's fate be wandering the woods beyond the Wall as a Wight, as soon as he crosses paths with the Others? Because there's no way he's avoiding them if he does come after Bran, given where that particular storyline's headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Oh yeah hadn't thought about horses :laugh: :dunce: And I like the rest of your theory too. I think that's one of the best I've read so far. Thank you so much :) :D Hmm . . . could Locke's fate be wandering the woods beyond the Wall as a Wight, as soon as he crosses paths with the Others? Because there's no way he's avoiding them if he does come after Bran, given where that particular storyline's headed. True that. I would love to see Locke as a wight, even if we only see it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 True that. I would love to see Locke as a wight, even if we only see it once Me too. Can you imagine if they went back to the Prologue's opening sequence as seen in the books, with Locke in Ser Waymar's shoes? Challenged to hand-to-hand combat by an Other, utterly and viciously defeated whilst surrounded by Others, only to rise again as a Wight? I'd love to see something like that play out onscreen :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Me too. Can you imagine if they went back to the Prologue's opening sequence as seen in the books, with Locke in Ser Waymar's shoes? Challenged to hand-to-hand combat by an Other, utterly and viciously defeated whilst surrounded by Others, only to rise again as a Wight? I'd love to see something like that play out onscreen :D I was thinking that something similar, but not identical, might actually happen. Cuz if Locke does end up tracking Bran and Co., I'm not sure how they would fight him off. From the scene at Castle Black, and dealing with Locke and general, he is definitely intelligent and a skilled swordsmen who is quick on his feet. If Bran were to warg Hodor to fight him off, I'm not sure he would win, given that Locke superiority and experience in combat. Meera could try and take him, but again I think Locke would come out on top. Summer could take him, but in the show Summer might be injured as Bran says that "he's hurt" after getting caught in the trap. So my train of thought was that Locke doesn't catch up till later, possibly the finale. Bran and Co. could be close to BR's cave when Locke catches up and makes his move. Bran wargs Hodor, Meera joins him to take Locke on, but ultimately Locke overcomes them. Then their asses get saved by the arrival of wights/maybe some Others in the show, which distracts Locke and makes him prioritize which enemy is more dangerous. Locke turns to fight the ice people, unwittingly buying time for Bran and Co. to make a run for it. The wights/Others surround him and overcome Locke, he dies, then is possibly wightified :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I was thinking that something similar, but not identical, might actually happen. Cuz if Locke does end up tracking Bran and Co., I'm not sure how they would fight him off. From the scene at Castle Black, and dealing with Locke and general, he is definitely intelligent and a skilled swordsmen who is quick on his feet. If Bran were to warg Hodor to fight him off, I'm not sure he would win, given that Locke superiority and experience in combat. Meera could try and take him, but again I think Locke would come out on top. Summer could take him, but in the show Summer might be injured as Bran says that "he's hurt" after getting caught in the trap. So my train of thought was that Locke doesn't catch up till later, possibly the finale. Bran and Co. could be close to BR's cave when Locke catches up and makes his move. Bran wargs Hodor, Meera joins him to take Locke on, but ultimately Locke overcomes them. Then their asses get saved by the arrival of wights/maybe some Others in the show, which distracts Locke and makes him prioritize which enemy is more dangerous. Locke turns to fight the ice people, unwittingly buying time for Bran and Co. to make a run for it. The wights/Others surround him and overcome Locke, he dies, then is possibly wightified :laugh: So what you're saying, essentially, is that Locke would take on Coldhand's role, fighting the Others/Wights whilst Bran and co. get inside the cave, where they're greeted by Leaf? Ironically poetic. I love it lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 So what you're saying, essentially, is that Locke would take on Coldhand's role, fighting the Others/Wights whilst Bran and co. get inside the cave, where they're greeted by Leaf? Ironically poetic. I love it lol! Pretty much, lol :laugh: Would be a nice serving of justice for the Starks and a good hand of karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Pounce Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I'd love to see them get together too, although it's so non-book. But I'd love it. I can see if happening this way - things are so bad in the Craster's battle that when Jon sees Bran, he tells him to RUN as fast as he can... ...then Bran just staring at him icily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Pretty much, lol :laugh: Would be a nice serving of justice for the Starks and a good hand of karma A good hand of Karma... Me thinks Jaime would love that lol! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 A good hand of Karma... Me thinks Jaime would love that lol! :D Idk man, thats such a backhanded comment to a cripples ego. Someone would probably have to lend him a hand on his journey to self recovery :cool4: ...too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Idk man, thats such a backhanded comment to a cripples ego. Someone would probably have to lend him a hand on his journey to self recovery :cool4: ...too much? lmao... You're right. Especially since Locke's unwilling sacrifice would come in very handy not to Jaime, but to the kid he made a cripple himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 lmao... You're right. Especially since Locke's unwilling sacrifice would come in very handy not to Jaime, but to the kid he made a cripple himself! In the end, with plot direction and a helping hand, it all comes full circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielo y Fuego Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 In the end, with plot direction and a helping hand, it all comes full circle 'nuff zed :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran's Legs Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 A lot of this is course correction...without CH, someone has to kill the mutineers. This also sets up Jon being a commander better than him moping in an ice cell, so I don't mind it that much. Interesting about Bran maybe faking his own death (or Jon assuming he dies). That could help sew these plot holes closed. Truthfully everything about this plot is stressing me out; this is why I read the books! I'm really worried about Meera being surrounded by Rapey McRapers, Locke's function is confusing me, and then there's the whole Ghost is in a cage and Summer is in a pit. The Reeds likely carrying the R+L=J bomb is just another element that's concerning me. Not that I don't want to know, but for Jon to know before becoming LC? Huge huge change. Good points. Though I am hoping Jon wargs in the next episode to help with the attacks. He won't warg, but I bet he frees the wolves before the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran's Legs Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The real question is if Jon finds out about his parentage from Bran or the Reeds will any of you stop watching the show? I don't think it will effect the stannis Jon interactions at all , He seemed pretty determined to turn down any title Stannis offered him it would make more sense actually if he knew about his own heritage. If Stannis knew Jon was Rhaegar's son, wouldn't that make things … problematic? I suppose not since Jon is on the Knight's Watch and has given up all rights. Of course, that hasn't stopped the Boltons from sending Locke to the Wall and thinking Jon is a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleWisps Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 If Stannis knew Jon was Rhaegar's son, wouldn't that make things … problematic? I suppose not since Jon is on the Knight's Watch and has given up all rights. Of course, that hasn't stopped the Boltons from sending Locke to the Wall and thinking Jon is a threat. Stannis was also willing to legitamize Jon as the heir to Winterfell. It would indeed create nothing but problems for Team Dragonstone and the rest of the Seven Kingdoms if they knew Jon's true parentage, Night's Watch or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slade7 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 "And finally, two of the most BORING stories from the books (no offense, but let's be honest) are coming together in an unexpected and exciting way: Bran Stark and friends are being held by the traitors from the Night's Watch, and only his half-brother Jon Snow and friends can save them! Swordfights! Direwolves! Hodor! " -Sean Adams from penn live .com Errrebodies entitled to their opinion I guess .......but clearly he's wrong about the what's boring In the books part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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