Charlie Of House Bucket Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Jaime wondered how there is no word for cousin killing, I think kinslayer just about covers it! However, the show can't go there. Not after what Jaime did to poor Alton in Season 2. If they start establishing kinslaying now, they'd only reveal how stupid Jaime/Alton scene actually was. Because of that, better not to mention kinslaying at all. D&D are not about to start jeopardizing their reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Was it established that Oberyn likely poisoned his spear, cause D&D said (in inside the episode) he poisoned the mountain in the duel, somewhat sloppy to reveal that info that way, either make it clear in show and then Inside the Epi is fine or if it is a subtle thing, don't mention it in Inside the Epi Those "Inside The Episode" videos are usually more logical and reasonable and informative and interesting than episodes themselves. It would be cruel to take those away from showrunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Was it established that Oberyn likely poisoned his spear, cause D&D said (in inside the episode) he poisoned the mountain in the duel, somewhat sloppy to reveal that info that way, either make it clear in show and then Inside the Epi is fine or if it is a subtle thing, don't mention it in Inside the Epi It's too bad they didn't have a scene with Oberyn and Elleria before the duel, where this could have been hinted.... Oh right, i forget, we needed a very long existential beetle monologue and another long segment on Grey Worm and Missandei.... It's a shame they used the whole 60 minutes too, not a minute to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 However, the show can't go there. Not after what Jaime did to poor Alton in Season 2. If they start establishing kinslaying now, they'd only reveal how stupid Jaime/Alton scene actually was. Because of that, better not to mention kinslaying at all. D&D are not about to start jeopardizing their reputation. The reason Jaime brought it up to begin with was because he slew his cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The reason Jaime brought it up to begin with was because he slew his cousin. Now that he remembered Alton, is Jaime about to go into mourning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm just glad the relatively incompetent and uninteresting Sansa is now a thing of the past. TV Sansa uninteresting and incompetent? You're probably not watching the same show as I do. In the show I watch, Sansa thinks "shift" is a vulgar word, is loved and protected by none other than our very own golden-heart-whore Shae, and gets that ever closed Margaery to finally talk about her sex life. And, last but not least, D&D bravely cut that GRRM's nonsense with her and Sandor. Sansa's actually way improved in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teemo Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 TV Sansa uninteresting and incompetent? You're probably not watching the same show as I do. In the show I watch, Sansa thinks "shift" is a vulgar word, is loved and protected by none other than our very own golden-heart-whore Shae, and gets that ever closed Margaery to finally talk about her sex life. And, last but not least, D&D bravely cut that GRRM's nonsense with her and Sandor. Sansa's actually way improved in the show. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeburners Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I honestly must say I didn't notice Sansa's dress at all... or barely noticed in passing and didn't remember. I'm surprised how much it has gotten mentioned. But then, I'm generally not very fashion conscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Moat Cailin, we did need a hint as to why those Ironborn were sick and many dying. Come on, a bogdevil drop could have been hella neato. Yeah.Crannogmen get no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teemo Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I wanted to see that guy at Moat Cailin that got stabbed and all his guts spilled out. That was pretty sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Now that he remembered Alton, is Jaime about to go into mourning? I think it's a pretty easy to understand concept that before his maiming, if Jaime needed to kill his cousin to get back home to Cersei, he would kill his cousin (That he barely remembers or cares about) but by all means please keep providing these riveting, pedantic comments. As a sidenote, Jaime recalls Alton in episode 1 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think it's a pretty easy to understand concept that before his maiming, if Jaime needed to kill his cousin to get back home to Cersei, he would kill his cousin (That he barely remembers or cares about). Thanks, that never crossed my mind. While you're still in the educating mode, care to explain why did Jaime need to kill his cousin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think it's a pretty easy to understand concept that before his maiming, if Jaime needed to kill his cousin to get back home to Cersei, he would kill his cousin (That he barely remembers or cares about) but by all means please keep providing these riveting, pedantic comments. As a sidenote, Jaime recalls Alton in episode 1 this year. I assume you mean TV Jamie, since Book Jamie hasn't killed any of his cousins or turned into a kinslayer, he managed to make it back to his bitch sister without killing any fellow Lannisters. Imagine that. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I assume you mean TV Jamie, since Book Jamie hasn't killed any of his cousins or turned into a kinslayer, he managed to make it back to his bitch sister without killing any fellow Lannisters. Imagine that. LOL. You obviously don't understand the concept, sir. You're pedantic. And childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vividox Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I have only the slightest nitpick with Grey Worm - Missandei scenes. Really don't have a problem with them having a relationship in general (even if he doesn't have a pillar and stones, stranger things have happened in the history of sexual attraction), but the scenes seemed a little dragged out and lengthy for what they were. The View of Missandei was worth it though, IMO. Also didn't like the waxing philosophical about the beetles, but for a different reason than most - I just didn't like them painting Tyrion as moping about the unfairness of the world. That doesn't really seem like it's in Tyrion's character to me. At least, not until he starts searching for where whores go. Liked pretty much everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I assume you mean TV Jamie, since Book Jamie hasn't killed any of his cousins or turned into a kinslayer, he managed to make it back to his bitch sister without killing any fellow Lannisters. Imagine that. LOL. Is this the TV forum or the book forum? Do you really think Jaime wouldn't have killed a distant cousin from a cadet branch of the family if it were his only means of escape (prior to the whole Hoat and Brienne journey) and he was given the chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miodrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Is this the TV forum or the book forum? Do you really think Jaime wouldn't have killed a distant cousin from a cadet branch of the family if it were his only means of escape (prior to the whole Hoat and Brienne journey) and he was given the chance? Hello!!! Why was killing Alton "his only means of escape"? What did Jaime gain by killing Alton? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eumaies Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 thanks all for this thread. Painful to suffer through the butchering of this show's best raw material alone. Now that they've done a truly mediocre viper vs mountain fight and turned Littlefinger into a mastermind with no game plan, they can get on with killing Tywin in nonsensical fashion and then I'll stop watching the show. That they can fail to make a good show out of material this good does not bode well with what they'll do with GRRMs more chaotic future work. Season 1 was the bomb. Then they just fell apart. Not a great show. Unique, but it's just TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Is this the TV forum or the book forum? Do you really think Jaime wouldn't have killed a distant cousin from a cadet branch of the family if it were his only means of escape (prior to the whole Hoat and Brienne journey) and he was given the chance? kinslaying is a huge taboo in Westeros. Even Roose Bolton won't kill his insane serial killer nut job of a son who killed his rightful heir because of the kinslaying taboo. So, no, in fact, I don't know if Jamie would have killed his cousin, I do know that the Original Jamie Lannister didn't kill his cousin and so far, isn't a kinslayer. It was a stupid change, done for who knows what stupid reason by D&D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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