Ratmancampidori Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hey has anyone else noticed a difference between the House names of Andal, Rhonyish and First Men families names? I sorta have but I can't put my finger on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I think it's stated somewhere that First Men names tend to be shorter and concise, while Andal names are a bit longer, and I think Martell's are Andals as well, given that they worship the seven. I haven't seen examples of names directly from the Rhoyne, since Nymeria wasn't even stated having a last name, nor Yandry or Ysilla. But to be honest, I haven't seen any huge difference phonetically of last names between noble born families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmancampidori Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Well then....this is good for me then :D Wait can anyone here think of any example of Andal Houses with short names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Well then....this is good for me then :D Wait can anyone here think of any example of Andal Houses with short names? Arryn. Also, there are many First Men houses with long names, but they are almost always descriptive: Hightower, Redwyne, Blackwood, Lannister (after Lann the Trickster), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmancampidori Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Thankyou Winterfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 And just to add, I don't think there are any Westerosi houses with Rhoynish names (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The only thing I can think of is how the Martells are technically Nymeros Martell. But with Andal and FM, WiB and BD basically got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naseridrl Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I've always got the impression that the Rhoynar married into Dorne and didn't bring any names with them. Their impact wasn't on names it was on the culture, plus if they married into pre-existing families it made it easier to swallow for the Dornish when it was all over. The main houses lived on so there was less change in the main governance of Dorne they just all now pledged to one main houses instead of a big houses per area. It's also possible the Rhoynar didn't have surnames and you were affiliated to the city like Nymeria of Ny Sar and that why she passed on the Nymeros. Maybe they were just David of Ib Dib, and Amy of Umpa Lumpa etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Also, Andals use a lot more double letters. Tully, Mooton and Mudd are some of the only ones (besides "wood" houses) and it's Mudd with double D's because who wants Mud as a last name? Same with Nutt. But Andals we have Kyndall, Martell, Uller, Tyrell, Arryn, Mallister etc. there are less Andals then I thought, but nevertheless. You'll also notice less common letters, Vance, Vypern, Drox, Brax. V and X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmancampidori Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Also, Andals use a lot more double letters. Tully, Mooton and Mudd are some of the only ones (besides "wood" houses) and it's Mudd with double D's because who wants Mud as a last name? Same with Nutt. But Andals we have Kyndall, Martell, Uller, Tyrell, Arryn, Mallister etc. there are less Andals then I thought, but nevertheless.You'll also notice less common letters, Vance, Vypern, Drox, Brax. V and X. By the Seven....how did I not notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 So is Darry a First Man house or a Andal house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 So is Darry a First Man house or a Andal house?They are First Men lol. Some houses don't fit with either... Darry is Irish for wealthy tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Daddy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 They are First Men lol. Some houses don't fit with either... Darry is Irish for wealthy tho.Nope, Irish for rich is "saibhir", (sounds like sieve, with an r at the end of it) and for poor is "bocht" (rhymes with... plucked). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nope, Irish for rich is "saibhir", (sounds like sieve, with an r at the end of it) and for poor is "bocht" (rhymes with... plucked).Damn sorry. Don't know where i got that from then...But still, an exception exists and likely more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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