Bustard Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Two examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parizad Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 LS seems to have more agency than wights, she leads a company of men. Wights seem more like pawns under the will of others. Although there is that one wight who seems to come for lord commander specifically. Even LS is nothing like Cat except that she has a memory of who wronged her and wants them dead. But Berrick seemed completely like himself after resurrection, somewhat like Coldhands if he is a wight. So maybe two kinds of resurrections aren't so different after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustard Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Didn't think about Coldhands- good point. I was drawing conclusions about the nature of R'hllor/the Great Other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The only reason my Lady seems different than Beric is because she cannot talk. Beric was rotted and hardly knew himself by the end. I'd say he was in worse shape when we see him since he died multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent branch Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The wildlings believe that the wights have at least some memory of who they were. Wights will return to their families and kill them if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Crow Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 When you sever a limb from a wight, the limb continues to move; however when Beric is hit in a vital area he dies and has to be brought back to life. This shows that Rhollor wights still rely on some of their bodily functions.I would say that Cat is more alive than the Other wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 DrdTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?Dqd pi nTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?When you sever a limb from a wight, the limb continues to move; however when Beric is hit in a vital area he dies and has to be brought back to life. This shows that Rhollor wights still rely on some of their bodily functions.I would say that Cat is more alive than the Other wights.Sc h vat eh ft ft o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 DrdTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?Dqd pi nTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?When you sever a limb from a wight, the limb continues to move; however when Beric is hit in a vital area he dies and has to be brought back to life. This shows that Rhollor wights still rely on some of their bodily functions.I would say that Cat is more alive than the Other wights.Sc h vat eh ft ft o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 DrdTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?Dqd pi nTwo examples of the resurrected dead but seemingly very different. LS has a sense of Catelyn in her while the wights are just animated bodies. Am I wrong to believe that?When you sever a limb from a wight, the limb continues to move; however when Beric is hit in a vital area he dies and has to be brought back to life. This shows that Rhollor wights still rely on some of their bodily functions.I would say that Cat is more alive than the Other wights.Sc h vat eh ft ft olAaadn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 DrdDqd pi nSc h vat eh ft ft olAaadnLol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 DrdDqd pi nSc h vat eh ft ft olAaadnA ldshtcfhl JPMorgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Arthurzico Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I actually don't think LS is any different from Catelyn, I just think that Catelyn went mad shortly before she was killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hol Horse Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The wights we've seen are ten times smarter than that hag. Hell, the one at Castle Black became a full-fledged assassin after his death and almost took out the Lord Commander. That not only takes skill, but intelligence as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connartist92 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 LS seems to have more agency than wights, she leads a company of men. Wights seem more like pawns under the will of others. Although there is that one wight who seems to come for lord commander specifically. Even LS is nothing like Cat except that she has a memory of who wronged her and wants them dead. But Berrick seemed completely like himself after resurrection, somewhat like Coldhands if he is a wight. So maybe two kinds of resurrections aren't so different after all. Don't wights also retain a bit of memory about the people who wronged them? In the prologue to AGOT wighted Ser Waymar Royce strangled Will after he hid in a tree and left him for dead. I feel like there were other examples too but I can't remember at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonisHenryTudor Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The only reason my Lady seems different than Beric is because she cannot talk. Beric was rotted and hardly knew himself by the end. I'd say he was in worse shape when we see him since he died multiple times. You're really beginning to remind me of Brienne. But yes, LS's throat was slashed. That of course changed the way Martin wrote her character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Wights are necromancy.Cat and Beric are resurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I'm not sure if "alive" is the right word, but I agree that LS seems to retain a degree of personhood that the wights do not. LS IS Catelyn Stark. She has the memories of Catelyn and maintains a degree of free will and purpose. Wights don't seem to possess any of these as far as we can tell. You could say that the wights maintain some degree of memory, but they are no longer "themselves". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiesid Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Ok I have to aplogize for my posts yesterday. Apparently my phone decided to freak out and post a bunch of gibberish. I'm really sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's Princess Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Yes, LS is a person, and she remembers who she was. She is crazy, but that happened right before she died, not as a result of her dying. And, of course, there's the fact that she has sworn bloody vengeance on the Freys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Stone heart and beric are alive, coldhands and the wights are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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