Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Brazil's Senate voted to impeach President Dilma Rousseff citing corruption and economic decay as the rational for the move. The vote was 55-22 in favor of impeachment. She is calling this a modern day coup d'etat and her supporters are threatening mass protests and strikes over this move. The article I link to below suggests polls show majority support for removal of Rousseff. This sounds like interesting times for Brazil as the Summer Olypmics are coming up: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/brazils-senate-impeaches-president-rousseff-trial-ahead/ar-BBsTRq8?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=msnHomepage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 My first thought when I heard was a relief that finally the media here in Bulgaria will stop parroting how great it is that the daughter of a Bulgarian immigrant become the president of a huge country like Brazil and present her like some sort of a saint for that silly reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I would love to hear from Brazilian posters about how they view the whole thing. It seems like a lot of the American press view this very cynically, that Rousseff's claim that this is a power grab actually has a lot of merit, and that virtually everyone involved in removing her from office is under investigation for corruption, and are seeking to create a coalition to kill said investigations. Which is very sad. Rousseff on the other hand seems to be not involved in the corruption scandal, but has been an ineffective and very very unpopular president, which makes it easier for for her opponents to go after her with trumped up charges. But I am not an expert, would love to hear more from people who are actually there or have been following this closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Don't forget the Zika Virus outbreak. Brazil has some serious issues right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Some fun numbers: 352 members of Brazil's congress (which has a total of 594) are under investigation for corruption Brazil's Vice President is likely to eventually get impeached as well, and a recent poll found that he would get 2 (two) percent of the vote in the 2018 election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Anyone know who conducts the trial for removal from office and who acts as the jury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Anyone know who conducts the trial for removal from office and who acts as the jury? Best I could find: Quote Vice President Michel Temer now takes over for up to six months pending a Senate trial that could result in Rousseff's permanent removal. That would require approval by two-thirds of the Senate, or 54 senators. If she is found guilty, Temer would likely stay on as president until 2018, when Rousseff's term expires. She would not be jailed, but banned from seeking the presidency for eight years. No date for the trial has been set. Her recourse: Quote Rousseff has repeatedly vowed to fight what she characterizes as a modern-day coup d'état. Speaking Thursday after the impeachment vote, Rousseff said she would use "all legal means" in that effort. In reality, however, Rousseff has few options. Appeals to the Supreme Federal Tribunal, the country's highest court, have failed. Last month, she said she might take her case to Mercosur, the South American trade bloc. However, it's highly unlike that members of Mercosur, which depend greatly on Brazil, Latin America's largest economy, would risk alienating the incoming president. So basically if the Brazilian Senate decides to proceed with a Senate Trial, and the vote count doesn't change, she will be fully removed from office. Also, IMO the Olympics need to be cancelled or relocated. If people from all around the world go to Brazil, catch the Zika virus, and then return home, we could have a global health crisis. Which is a lot bigger deal than the Brazilian government crumbling under the weight of wide spread corruption charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterKing Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Brazilian here. Yes, in most normal situations someone that broke the law in the way she did (and yes, she did break a law) wouldn't be impeached, but her lack of popularity, disastrous management of the economy and lack of ployic habilitated made that a reality. The Supreme Court( most members were nominated by Lula and Dilma) has verified every step of the process and found it legal. About the process now, the Senate, now presided by the president of the Supreme Court, judges Dilma. Most people support the impeachment (69% in the last pool). The impeachment may be unusual in the way it happened, but it was legal and definitely not a coup. edit: Also, she isn't corrupt, but she tried to shield Lula, who certainly is, from investigation, and now the attorney-general, nominated by her,has started to investigate her for obstruction of justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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