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I wonder if this is Vince Gilligan's sense of justice at work then, that almost no one is really benefiting from their crimes. 

Gus lives in a house that I could probably afford, despite the fact that his chicken franchise alone would make him a multi millionaire, Mike lives exactly the life you'd expect of a retired cop, Hector is full of rage and resentment however much $ he has, and ends up in a shack in the desert, and if Saul really had a lot of money before meeting Walt, then he too, is living the life of a lowest rung ambulance chaser despite whatever money he really has.  Only Don Eladio and Lalo seem like they're living a nice, lavish drug lord life with all the associated perks.  

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49 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

I wonder if this is Vince Gilligan's sense of justice at work then, that almost no one is really benefiting from their crimes. 

Gus lives in a house that I could probably afford, despite the fact that his chicken franchise alone would make him a multi millionaire, Mike lives exactly the life you'd expect of a retired cop, Hector is full of rage and resentment however much $ he has, and ends up in a shack in the desert, and if Saul really had a lot of money before meeting Walt, then he too, is living the life of a lowest rung ambulance chaser despite whatever money he really has.  Only Don Eladio and Lalo seem like they're living a nice, lavish drug lord life with all the associated perks.  

And what are the common items between those two groups? One group lives in the US where they have to hide and justify their income. The other group lives in Mexico where the cartel runs things and they can do as they wish.

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I've seen many people being worried for Papa Varga. But am I the only one who felt that Lalo's anger could be more aimed at Gus & co. than at Nacho?

I mean, if we are to imagine what he does straight at the end of the episode, IMO it's more likely that he goes to Eladio's villa to confront him about Gus (& Bolsa?) so he has allies in his upcoming war, than driving alone right to Albuquerque in search of Nacho or whatever...

(Ofc I guess he can do both)

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5 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said:

I've seen many people being worried for Papa Varga. But am I the only one who felt that Lalo's anger could be more aimed at Gus & co. than at Nacho?

I mean, if we are to imagine what he does straight at the end of the episode, IMO it's more likely that he goes to Eladio's villa to confront him about Gus (& Bolsa?) so he has allies in his upcoming war, than driving alone right to Albuquerque in search of Nacho or whatever...

(Ofc I guess he can do both)

He doesn't know who did it, but he is certain Nacho helped, so Nacho is #1 on hit list. I don't see Lalo going back to the US. Too much risk he gets picked up again and doesn't make bail. He would be better off sending a hit team or kidnapping them to do it himself in Mexico.

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9 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said:

I've seen many people being worried for Papa Varga. But am I the only one who felt that Lalo's anger could be more aimed at Gus & co. than at Nacho?

I mean, if we are to imagine what he does straight at the end of the episode, IMO it's more likely that he goes to Eladio's villa to confront him about Gus (& Bolsa?) so he has allies in his upcoming war, than driving alone right to Albuquerque in search of Nacho or whatever...

(Ofc I guess he can do both)

He has to be careful w/Gus though because of how much $$ he earns for Eladio, if not for Eladio, the Salamancas would already have killed Gus and taken over, I think? 

He also may not want to point out this series of weaknesses and fuck ups to Eladio, so I would think he will attempt to get his revenge on his own, and probably will start with Nacho if he can find him.  Next would be Jimmy, to find out what he was lying about, which would lead to Mike and Gus, so it must be that he never reaches Jimmy or Kim.

Lalo may end up like the Russian in the Pine Barrens, no one will know what happened to him but he never resurfaces.

 

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10 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

He has to be careful w/Gus though because of how much $$ he earns for Eladio, if not for Eladio, the Salamancas would already have killed Gus and taken over, I think? 

He also may not want to point out this series of weaknesses and fuck ups to Eladio, so I would think he will attempt to get his revenge on his own, and probably will start with Nacho if he can find him.  Next would be Jimmy, to find out what he was lying about, which would lead to Mike and Gus, so it must be that he never reaches Jimmy or Kim.

Lalo may end up like the Russian in the Pine Barrens, no one will know what happened to him but he never resurfaces.

 

Hey that Sopranos prequel movie got delayed cause of the virus, but it's still coming out. I maintain that he fell into some kinda time portal and will hunt young Tony through 1967 Newark like the Terminator. 

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On 4/21/2020 at 11:16 PM, Triskele said:

Not that I blame anyone, but Don Elario looked older in a way that was so different.  Everyone else like Hector, Mike, etc... they've done a great job with the time juxtaposition.  

Seeing Mike, Gus and others reminds me of watching The Irishman. They often look younger at first glance but they don't move younger. Not a huge deal for me. I have an imagination and can look past it for the most part. But sometimes it sticks out and is jarring.

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On 24 April 2020 at 4:24 PM, Cas Stark said:

I wonder if this is Vince Gilligan's sense of justice at work then, that almost no one is really benefiting from their crimes. 

Gus lives in a house that I could probably afford, despite the fact that his chicken franchise alone would make him a multi millionaire, Mike lives exactly the life you'd expect of a retired cop, Hector is full of rage and resentment however much $ he has, and ends up in a shack in the desert, and if Saul really had a lot of money before meeting Walt, then he too, is living the life of a lowest rung ambulance chaser despite whatever money he really has.  Only Don Eladio and Lalo seem like they're living a nice, lavish drug lord life with all the associated perks.  

Walt himself had $80m, but no way of spending it.

The money becomes a way of keeping score.

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22 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

Lalo may end up like the Russian in the Pine Barrens, no one will know what happened to him but he never resurfaces.

That doesn't seem like Gilligan's style tbh. I'm fairly confident that Lalo's eventual fate will be clearly spelled out. 

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On 4/24/2020 at 10:15 AM, Consigliere said:

Yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in Saul's office or car to determine how much money he had. Saul's office is in a strip mall and he drives a caddy because that is what fits who he is. He had the corner office, partner track and fancy German car at D&M and could have had that again at HMM - he rejected it both times because that is not who he is.

Plus, we see him doing alright with his legal practice, he’s splitting housing costs with Kim, he already does not need to keep driving the piece of shit that got left in the desert. He already doesn’t need to be working out of the nail salon. He’d just rather buy his flashy outfits than that stuff

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On 4/23/2020 at 1:00 PM, Consigliere said:

Yeah, Kim has broken bad and gone overboard now. She had a legitimate reason to harbour anger towards Howard but has gone too far. Nobody is denying that. 

Anyway, this was following on from the claim upthread that Howard never did her any wrong and only tried to help her. That's not entirely true. 

Agree, to a point.  I'd forgotten how long Kim had to spend laboring in the stacks.  

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On 4/23/2020 at 1:06 PM, Cas Stark said:

Am I the only one who has wondered why BB Saul isn't more prosperous, now that we see his back story of being more involved w/the cartel than what most probably thought and having a clearer idea of who and what Mike is capable of?  BB Saul drives an old car and has a crappy mini mall office that is full of the typical low life, petty criminals that we would expect from an ambulance chasing, sleazy attorney.  This doesn't quite square with someone who rep'd Lalo Salamanca and knows some of Mike's secrets, how did he never make bank in those years with any of the cartel relationships?  

I think this is going to be one of the main threads of the last season, I'm sure. I'm rewatching Breaking Bad now. In the season 2 episode Saul gets introduced in, when Jesse and Walt kidnap Saul, he says "did Lalo send you? Ignacio did it, it was Ignacio!" Lalo's coming for Saul and Nacho, and Saul isn't going to be a friend of the cartel anymore (though he does also claim to be a friend of the cartel in Spanish, which they nicely linked up with in this season of BCS).

Otherwise, I agree that Saul doesn't parade his wealth in the BB days.

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