Hmmm Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 10 hours ago, Werthead said: Better footage of the crippling defeat at Novomykhailivka. The Russians started by crashing two tanks into one another before hitting a wall of drones and artillery. This is being described by the Russians as their most disastrous and costly single attack since the Vuhledar traffic jam massacre. What is your view on how Ukraine would fare if USA never gets it shit together and passes that aid bill, followed by a Trump presidency? Europe looks quite committed to keeping up the support for Ukraine, and its previously sclerotic military industry is ramping up production now. Could this be enough to keep Ukraine on its feet even if USA more or less pulls out? Edited February 4 by Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, Hmmm said: What is your view on how Ukraine would fare if USA never gets it shit together and passes that aid bill, followed by a Trump presidency? Europe looks quite committed to keeping up the support for Ukraine, and its previously sclerotic military industry is ramping up production now. Could this be enough to keep Ukraine on its feet even if USA more or less pulls out? There is considerable contingency planning going on in Europe and Ukraine to account for a total drop in American support. Ukraine is focusing internal production on artillery shells and drones, and leaning on European support for components for those, small arms and ammunition. They are also exploring possible avenues of shell supply from South Korea (which is increasingly pissed off with North Korea, so is more swayable over things it wasn't going to consider two years ago) to offset American losses. The loss of American support would be not as critical now as it would have been 18-24 months ago, if for no other reason than the US has sent most of what is immediately combat-ready to send. It could pull 500 Bradleys and Abrams out of storage and send them to Ukraine, but they would also take months to refit. There's also other stuff happening that will happen regardless of if Trump gets in: Poland has a backorder for dozens of HIMARS systems signed over a year ago, and the order contract probably does not prohibit resale to Ukraine. Not to say that losing US support would not be a serious blow to Ukraine, but it would not necessarily be fatal. Hmmm, The Mance, Rippounet and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Russian convicts now signed up until end of the war, no longer just for 6 months https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68140873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, mormont said: Not if he's killed most of them in taking Ukraine. He’ll draft any boy or man whoncan walk and have them charge guns/minefields en masse with what’s left of the Russian army waiting behind with guns ready to shoot anyone who doesnt advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) Finally EU showed some balls, but the countries need to do more,the fact ,that one country is able to stop the aids to help Ukraine , is ridiculous Edited February 4 by KingAerys_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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