The Swaggering Bravo Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 We all know that Westerosi Houses take their sigil deep to the heart, but which one best represents it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Seeing as the Starks of this generation can literally become wolves, I'll say them. :) Broadly, I like the idea that a lot of the First Men/old gods houses with animal sigils chose those sigils as a result of skinchanging ancestors. Another example would be the Mormonts on Bear Island. Tze, who's pretty much awesome with this stuff, suggested that Bolton's flayed man came about from their attempts to become "skinchangers" themselves — they flayed Starks and wore their skins literally hoping to "become" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val the Wildling Princess Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Starks ans their direwolves, they are part of each other so that's it ^_^Tze, who's pretty much awesome with this stuff, suggested that Bolton's flayed man came about from their attempts to become "skinchangers" themselves — they flayed Starks and wore their skins literally hoping to "become" them.This is genious!!! I'm really curious about the Umbers's sigil of the giant in broken chains. Are the Umbers descendents of giants? Did they help giants to get free in the past in some way? Just curious cause I've read several theories of Val being an Umber (being the daughter of that Mors Umber daughter stolen by wildlings 30 years ago) and it would be kinda awesome that she had a giant to protect her :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina316 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I´d say Starks, too. And possibly Targaryens... that resistance to fire is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I´d say Starks, too. And possibly Targaryens... that resistance to fire is impressive.Rhaenyra Targaryen, Aerion Brightflame, Aegon V, Duncan the Small and Viserys Targaryen disagree. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in the South Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Starks being direwolves suggests they are fierce, territorial, dangerous, etc people. I've never got that impression from the Starks, or at least if I did it was a minority (Brandon, Arya, Lyanna?). They seem far more solitary, calculating, reserved, etc, traits I would not normally associate with wolves.No do I think the Lannisters fit the profile of a lion. Lion's do not scheme last I checked.I'd agree with the Targaryens. Dragons are ferocious, but also mysterious, larger than life (as the Targs are portrayed), etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Starks being direwolves suggests they are fierce, territorial, dangerous, etc people. I've never got that impression from the Starks, or at least if I did it was a minority (Brandon, Arya, Lyanna?). They seem far more solitary, calculating, reserved, etc, traits I would not normally associate with wolves.The Starks existed for about 7,950 years before the events unfolding now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King in the South Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The Starks existed for about 7,950 years before the events unfolding now.That's what I'm referring to. There are exceptions of course, but generally the Starks seemed to have been referred to as cautious, cold, etc. (Older exceptions would be someone like Theon Stark?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born by Fire Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yeah, I almost feel like the question should be, "Which house DOESN'T fit it's sigil?" I'd agree with including the Lannisters as one that does not. Instead of lions, they should probably just have bags of gold. But most of the other houses seem to follow the sigil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swaggering Bravo Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yeah, I almost feel like the question should be, "Which house DOESN'T fit it's sigil?"I'd agree with including the Lannisters as one that does not. Instead of lions, they should probably just have bags of gold.But most of the other houses seem to follow the sigil...Do any Baratheons act like deer? Do any of the Greyjoys act like squids? Martells seem to stray from their symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerly Grumkin Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The Greyjoys dont act like squids, its more like a big snake in the water, or a KrakenAnd Renly and Robert kind of acted like Deer, frolicing off to war "look at me, im king" "look at me im banging a hot flower/lion" "LOOK AT ME!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderfist Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think that House Martell is the winning canditate. Their sigil is a spear, sitting in the sun and doing next to nothing, which pretty much sums up House Martell so far. Despite Oberyns and Quentyns attempts to take some action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Just to bring it up again: House Tollett. Dolorous Edd´s house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Lady Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Just to bring it up again: House Tollett. Dolorous Edd´s house.Poor Edd, he was born to be miserable, with that sigil and words. Just his luck. :laugh: But serious now, the Stark kids can literally become their sigil by warging, can't get much better than that!Other houses share traits with their chosen sigils too, but not to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think the symbols are more symbols than actual l traits. Lannisters are loyal to the pride, they are very proud, etc.starks are loyal to the pack, the persevere, etc.martells banner represents dornes strongest weapons. Thw first is useless outside of dorne [sun] and the spear is supposed to keep enemies at a distance, which seems to be pretty much what martell is doing.I really don't understand what baratheon has. I would have thought the storm kings which they stole everything from would have a lightnening bolt as a banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilbreaker Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 House clegane.They are two mad dogs who will rip anyone apart who gets near them, and sandor even goes by the name The Hound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erinne Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I feel the Boltons definitely deserve a mention here. Their sigil is a flayed man. They flay people. Doesn't get much more straightforward than that. None of that mucking around with animal symbolism, just straight up "you mess with us, you getting your ass flayed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lightening Lord Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 House Redwyne...they make wine and their sigil are grapes...pretty appropriateI think the Lannisters are very much like lions. They certainly have the (false) pride, strength and arrogance of the so-called King of the Jungle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I feel the Boltons definitely deserve a mention here. Their sigil is a flayed man. They flay people. Doesn't get much more straightforward than that. None of that mucking around with animal symbolism, just straight up "you mess with us, you getting your ass flayed".YES! House Bolton represents it's sigil better than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Yes red on pink really hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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