houseHB Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Smiling Knight Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 What will the great scheming Lord die of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death.I agree that it would be a really interesting prologue, but a number of people have pointed out that the prologues so far have been in strict sequence: Beyond the Wall; southern maester; beyond the Wal; southern maester; beyond the Wall; so we should be due a Maester from the south for TWOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Flies Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 We could well get a maester's perspective on Dorne, but it seems more likely we'll finally see Highgarden or Lannisport in the WoW prolouge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peko Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I don't think there's a chance of Doran being the prologue character. I mean, there would have been a mention of his death in the Arianne chapter that GRRM read, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TristanGreyjoy Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I agree that it would be a really interesting prologue, but a number of people have pointed out that the prologues so far have been in strict sequence: Beyond the Wall; southern maester; beyond the Wal; southern maester; beyond the Wall; so we should be due a Maester from the south for TWOW.Pate wasnt a maester he was training to become one. You may be right since Pate was close enough to the maesters for the beyond the wall, then southern maester thing to work, but i think Pate's prologue was to introduce Oldtown/ Jaqen's return. So far the prologues that havent been beyond the wall introduce us to places we havent yet seen in the series (first time seeing Dragonstone and Oldtown). This makes me think that the prologue will be Willas or Garlan or Loras Tyrell defending Highgarden from Euron, or it will be someone from Casterly rock, or maybe Starfall (first three important places i can think of that we havent seen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Probably unlikely, but could we possibly be getting a Vale prologue? Chance of a Doran one seems fairly small, considering he's alive in a later chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Crow Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It would be interesting, but not sure what new things he could add in terms of thought process and plot plans...we already sort of know his intentions and even the deeper intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrso Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Arianne could be used to show Doran's death, it would be a wasted prologue. If I'd have to bet my money on it, I'd guess we'd be shown Euron attacking, with a demonstration of some new sinister thing about him,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenVale Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death.Maybe. I wouldn't rule out a Doran prologue though, if it does happen I think it'd more likely be Doran learning about Quentyn's demise and dealing with/shifting his plans to accommodate it. Killing Doran would be interesting but I should point out that George RR Martin has already done a reading of an Arianne chapter "Arianne II" which would seem to indicate otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volantis Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death.Yes Doran will die in the prologue, then he will rise from the dead and tell Arianne to meet Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedPriest Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As Doran have once said, the power of Dorne relies on people thinking that Dorne is powerfull.I don't think that Dorne will actually play a part in the upcoming war beyond forging allignances based on the myth that the people of Westeros give to the Dornish military (thus offering some kind of protection to (f)Aegon).Not that i'm saying that the Dorne characters will be irrelevant, far from that. Their power lies on deceit, politics and poison, not on a strong military backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oprahnoodlemantra Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I think Doran still has a part to play. I like to think that all hell will break lose when the armies of the Vale and Dorne are finally released.As for who the prologue POV will be...I'm guessing a maester in Storm's End that witnesses Aegon revealing his existence to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Talker Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Prologue characters tend to die and like other posters have said I think he still has a part to play.In my opinion, his POV will be a window to a Dornish perspective of the past. That way we'll perhaps understand the relationship between Rhaegar and Elia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah.jenice Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As for who the prologue POV will be...I'm guessing a maester in Storm's End that witnesses Aegon revealing his existence to the world.That seems really plausible. We've gotten some interesting Storm's End background from Cat, but I would love to learn more. The fact that it was built with wards that kept Mel's magic out really intrigues me. A maester there might be able to tell us more about the history of the castle (before dying of course).I also like the thought of it being Highgarden with Willas or his maester fighting Euron Greyjoy. My only problem with this is that I am almost certain that Euron has followed Victarian and is near him in Slaver's Bay.I agree with the formula that we will see a new location, but I can't think of anything interesting that will draw us to Casterly Rock/Lannisport. Our prologues not only show us a new location, but have also given us examples of magic that we are unable to get from our usual characters (Varamyr, Pate).For Doran, I can't seem him as Prologue POV (especially as others have pointed out that Arianne makes not mention of her father dying) but perhaps as the Epilogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jslay427 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if we got another Hotah pov for Doran's death (if he does die) Doran dying would put Dorne in Ariann's power, which, I think everyone can agree would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volantis Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death.In Arianne's chapter in WoW, there was no mention of Doran's death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Hand Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Maybe it'll be somewhere on the stepstones. You hear about characters going pirate there throughout the season, I wanna see whats going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaeneryStormBorn Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What will the great scheming Lord die of?I just had to LOL at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaeneryStormBorn Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I think Winds will open up with Doran Martell's death sending Dorne into chaos. Doran Martell's death will give the Sand Snakes more flexibility on whether to put Dorne in all out war against the Lannisters. Also, it would put Arianne Martell who is on her way to see Aegon from the Winds sample chapter in more of a power position, after Quentyn's death.I hope not, I like Doran, He is a boring character but I'd like to see what GRRM have in store for him, since he been scheming since his sister died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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