peterbound Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 this people are all feeding you misinformation, total.it's very plain in tEotW that both male and female sides were corrupted. i for one find it hard to believe that you missed this, and therefore you must be messing with us.Right?OP, are you sure you read the book? If so i recommend a re-read. Everything I've ever read in the books (and i've now read them all) indicates that both of them are corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So, the fact that they touched him with their version of the One Power meant they were corrupted? Or is this an ability the Dark One has anyway but never used before?The Dark One can only taint either half of the source if men use it to actually touch him.I don't understand how hurling lightening bolts at the Dark one or his followers doesn't establish enough of a connection for corruption of the One Power; but this entrapment did.How can hurling Lightning possibly be compared to touching? Not that anyone has ever hurled lightning at the Dark One anyway. As for his minions, they are not him, so touching them with the OP won't have the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Saidin would have to be touching the DO which can only happen at a specific time for this to occur. Had females accompanied LTT this may well have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Dont ruin the series for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrusOctavianus Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Dont ruin the series for yourselfRobert Jordan and/or the publisher already ruined the series when the books got popular and it was decided to slow things down and milk the series as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Robert Jordan and/or the publisher already ruined the series when the books got popular and it was decided to slow things down and milk the series as long as possible.Meh i still like them. Same thing might happen with ASOIAF or may have already happened but ill still enjoy the books. In any case there are some great books in the series and spoiling yourself this early in the book is fairly non-sensical no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Robert Jordan and/or the publisher already ruined the series when the books got popular and it was decided to slow things down and milk the series as long as possible.Dang you beat me to this :)The most annoying thing....and the list is long, are the relationships.In the first 2 books i was so sick of Ran saying "I wish i could talk to girls like Perrin" and Perrin saying i wish i could talk to girls like Mat ect ect that i wanted very badly for Sandor Clegane to ride them all down like the bunch of butchers boys that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Meh, seems to me most young guys actually do think these kind of things so seems pretty true to life. In any case Rands the clear winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Moody Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Some fifteen-year-olds think those things. But Rand, Mat, and Perrin are nineteen in The Eye of the World, and neither they nor any other characters ever demonstrate a more mature or varied understanding of romantic relationships than that sort of high school stuff. Every couple dynamic is a trite "battle of the sexes," as though no man has ever understood or wholeheartedly supported a woman, or vice versa. It's like a 50s sitcom where the wives can do magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Im not that sure nineteen year olds dont ever doubt there own prowess, or that they are sometimes envious of their friends, even if wrongly so. Unless their very mature nineteen year olds. And IIRC by the end they are what? 21 or 22? All very young men which many people seem to forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Women having the power to channel seems to have effected gender roles in WoT, probably disproportionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Moody Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Again, the question isn't whether anyone might sometimes behave that way, but whether everyone ought to do so all the time. I'm trying to think of a single romantic relationship shown in any depth in the series that doesn't involve stuff like that-- "comical" doubts and misunderstandings, loving insults, mutual incomprehension-- and I can't come up with any. Jordan's writing about romance just reeks of a desire to make readers say, "Aww, haven't we all felt like that?" Well, we haven't. It would have been interesting to show how only women being able to channel (safely) affected perceptions of gender roles. It's a really great notion for a thoughtful fantasy series. But the series' own perceptions of inherent gender roles and relations prevents it from providing that level of commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
total1402 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Most of the scenes in this series happen twice :)Yeah, but thats nothing on Martin. In ADWD he has three seperate POVs describe Volantis across multiple chapters, and only narrowly avoids giving us Victarion in Volantis at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Only Volantis is cool, which you can't say for Far Madding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Robert Jordan and/or the publisher already ruined the series when the books got popular and it was decided to slow things down and milk the series as long as possible.http://xrl.us/bob4nu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrusOctavianus Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 http://xrl.us/bob4nuReally?You didn't notice that the series lost all momentum when it got popular? Unless you have some better explanation, I think the most likely reason is that they tried to milk the series as much as they could by not finishing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrusOctavianus Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Most of the scenes in this series happen twice :)In the first book didn't the scene where Matt and Rand got clothes (I think it was shirts) from some farmer happen twice? Or did I just imagine it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yeah, "got" popular. Because the first book was such a poor seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrusOctavianus Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yeah, "got" popular. Because the first book was such a poor seller.Sorry, are you trying to communicate something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sorry, are you trying to communicate something? I believe the point is that WoT was a major success from the start, and RJ churned out 6 books in five years, all of which were great successes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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