The Iron Suitor Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Mayhaps it will be Aegon himself who finds the blade while conquering the stormlands, should he come across Summerhall.I was thinking that but I still thing Aegon is a Blackfyre and he will end up with Blackfyre the sword and I don't think he will get both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard's Bastard Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I was thinking that but I still thing Aegon is a Blackfyre and he will end up with Blackfyre the sword and I don't think he will get both.Yeah but maybe he'd give it to Dany as a welcoming present when she arrives to Westeros :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not in the face Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Don't forget Randyll Tarly has Heartsbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood of the Flagon Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 BR left for the wall from the red keep's dungeon. I don't think he had Dark Sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity of Dragons Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'd absolutely love to see these Valyrian swords re-surface. I've always wondered what happened to Dark Sister and Blackfyre. Ice needs to be reforged too. I think Varys or Illyrio have either Dark Sister or Blackfyre, or even possibly both. I wonder who'll get which sword, Arya seems a lock for wielding Dark Sister, but that seems too good to be true, and a bit cliche, so that'll probably not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppuku Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't get the sword porn. Val steel daggers are dime a dozen in the book. The blades are mostly for symbolism purpose. But really, who cares about Brightroar? The only one that matters would be Blackfyre, which holds significance for Aegon's legitimacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard's Bastard Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't get the sword porn. Val steel daggers are dime a dozen in the book.The blades are mostly for symbolism purpose. But really, who cares about Brightroar?The only one that matters would be Blackfyre, which holds significance for Aegon's legitimacy.Wouldn't wielding Blackfyre make Aegon look like a Blackfyre? After Aegon IV legitimised his bastards the sword passed along the Blackfyre line so if Aegon turns up with GC and the sword it would look like another Blackfyre rebellion... it should be presented to him as a gift in his coronation by some high lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Know Face Man Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Dark Sister is probably hidden somewhere at the Wall or in the CoTF's cave. (I have a crazy theory that Jon will end up in possession of it and will give it to Arya. It would be a similar scene to when Jon gave her Needle, which she would have lost by this point. At the end of the story, if both survive, Arya leaves and Jon tells her she needs a new sword and gives her Dark Sister. Hopefully, she doesn't lose this one. Cheesy, I know.)I expect Blackfyre to be given to Aegon and later claimed by Dany.I don't know if we'll see Brightroar, but I expect some conclusion to the Gerion mystery, dead or alive.Dawn will almost assuredly show up at some point, probably in the hands of either Darkstar--stolen perhaps?--or Edric. (Dawn isn't a Valyrian blade, but it is talked about so much, it seems to fit this thread about lost famous weapons.)Ive made post's about Arya getting DS from Jon so its not such a crazy theory. I believe it will happen! Aegon gave that sword to his sister, its made for a slim person ( Bloodraven - Aemon the Dragon Knight) both slim men. Jon being the heir to House Targaryen gives him the right to give DS to whoever he wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard's Bastard Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Ive made post's about Arya getting DS from Jon so its not such a crazy theory. I believe it will happen! Aegon gave that sword to his sister, its made for a slim person ( Bloodraven - Aemon the Dragon Knight) both slim men. Jon being the heir to House Targaryen gives him the right to give DS to whoever he wishesBastards dont inherit anything. Daenerys is the heir or Aegon if he's really a Targaryen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pollo Loco Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 BR left for the wall from the red keep's dungeon. I don't think he had Dark SisterIm not really arguing, but BR can work a glamor and we've seen a glamored sword, i'm going to go with who knows....the sword just seems to perfect not to end up in Arya's hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Summer Islander Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Isn't randall tarlys sword also valaryan steel? Heartsbane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spark of House Spark Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Dark Sister is probably hidden somewhere at the Wall or in the CoTF's cave. (I have a crazy theory that Jon will end up in possession of it and will give it to Arya. It would be a similar scene to when Jon gave her Needle, which she would have lost by this point. At the end of the story, if both survive, Arya leaves and Jon tells her she needs a new sword and gives her Dark Sister. Hopefully, she doesn't lose this one. Cheesy, I know.)I expect Blackfyre to be given to Aegon and later claimed by Dany.I don't know if we'll see Brightroar, but I expect some conclusion to the Gerion mystery, dead or alive.Dawn will almost assuredly show up at some point, probably in the hands of either Darkstar--stolen perhaps?--or Edric. (Dawn isn't a Valyrian blade, but it is talked about so much, it seems to fit this thread about lost famous weapons.)Wasnt Dawn returned by Eddard Stark after he killed it's last owner, that is where he saw lyanna on her death bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sword in the night Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Here's the compiled list so far:Going from what's on awoiaf...So what did BR do with DS? Did he take it to the wall? Is it in the cave?And Blackfyre was wielded by Maelys the monstrous but not recovered by Barristan after slaying him?We haven't had a whiff of these sweet-ass blades yet? Any thoughts? Do Varys and Mopatis have them squirreled away somewhere, waiting for fAegon to take the throne? Will Brightroar make an appearance? Will Ice get reforged somehow?In the coming book, aside from prestige, its seems that having Valyrian steel will be even more important. I know that Kaggo corpsekiller has an arakh. A Celtigar has an axe. Others: Corbray, Tarly, Jon Snow, Brienne (oathkeeper) and I guess Tommen/Varys (widow's wail) (though that 2nd half of Ice seems pretty easily poached). Any others that we've heard of?Thoughts on these blades and their significances?red rain (house drumm) and nightfall (house harlaw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard's Bastard Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Wasnt Dawn returned by Eddard Stark after he killed it's last owner, that is where he saw lyanna on her death bedAye, Dawn is at Starfall waiting for the next sword of the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Hero Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 There's about 1000 Valyrian blades left in the world with about 200 in Westeros alone (SSM) so maybe someone will be able to mass produce valyrian steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Mormont Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 reforming ice at this point would seem very anduril-ish. I don't think Martin will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 There is Nightfall of House Harlaw wielded by the Knight, and Red Rain of House Drumm.Blackfyre was probably kept by the GC. They will eventually give it to Aegon in TWoW, as until Daemon Blackfyre, it was the sword of Targaryen kings since Aegon I. Aegon would wield Blackfyre as symbol that he is the rightful heir to the IT. If it wasn't kept by the GC, it could have been kept by Maelys's sister or female reltive, Illyrio's wife, Serra, as the sword would have passed to the next of kin in House Blackfyre. Illyrio could have kept it after she died, and put it in one of the chests.Dark Sister could have been brought by BR to the Wall. Aegon V could have allowed that, as the sword was given to BR, making it his, and he brought it with him to the cave of the CotF where it is kept.Ice will be reforged, being made into two blades helped to symbolize the scattering of the Starks. The sword will be reforged as the Stark kids are brought back together. Think LOTR: Renewed shall be the blade that was broken. Bits of Aragorn's poem are found throught ASOIAF in some form.I think we will meet Gerion again, revealed to be the corsair king mentioned in ASoS and AFfC, and he may have found Brightroar, and possibly the first person to ever sail to Valyria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard's Bastard Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Ice will be reforged, being made into two blades helped to symbolize the scattering of the Starks. The sword will be reforged as the Stark kids are brought back together. Think LOTR: Renewed shall be the blade that was broken. Bits of Aragorn's poem are found throught ASOIAF in some form.I think we will meet Gerion again, revealed to be the corsair king mentioned in ASoS and AFfC, and he may have found Brightroar, and possibly the first person to ever sail to Valyria.I dont think Martin will reforge Ice. To be honest it would be just lame and predictable. I like the thought Gerion being the corsair king though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannibalStark Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Going from what's on awoiaf...So what did BR do with DS? Did he take it to the wall? Is it in the cave?And Blackfyre was wielded by Maelys the monstrous but not recovered by Barristan after slaying him?We haven't had a whiff of these sweet-ass blades yet? Any thoughts? Do Varys and Mopatis have them squirreled away somewhere, waiting for fAegon to take the throne? Will Brightroar make an appearance? Will Ice get reforged somehow?In the coming book, aside from prestige, its seems that having Valyrian steel will be even more important. I know that Kaggo corpsekiller has an arakh. A Celtigar has an axe. Others: Corbray, Tarly, Jon Snow, Brienne and I guess Tommen/Varys (though that 2nd half of Ice seems pretty easily poached). Any others that we've heard of?Thoughts on these blades and their significances?With regards to Ice...I found it unusually the just before riding back with Bolton's men to save Brienne from the bear pit Jaimie had a dream were both them were wielding identical swords with blue glowing light and in the dream Cersei whispers that he shall live as long as the blue flame burns on (or something like that) ...then Jaimie's "light" goes out first in the dreamThen once he gets back to KL Tywin gives him half of Ice, he then turns around and gives "Oathkeeper" to Brienne before sending her off. With Joff dead I am curious where Widow's Wail is and if Jaimie and Brienne aren't in fact now carrying the two halves if Ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Honey Badger Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I love this sword porn. Unfortunately as much as I would like to see all the swords resurfacing I don't think it is very likely. This is GRRM after all!...I have a question though and i may make a post about it: Why did some of the the great houses of Westeros have Valyrian steel swords pre Aegons conquest?I am of the belief that Dragonsteel = Valyrian Steel. This could justify the reason why the great houses have them. So when the Long Night decends these ceremonial/super swords can be used to fight the others. Apolagies for the structure and spelling in this post. I am half asleep :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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