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Dark Sister, Blackfyre, Brightroar, et al.: Revealed in WoW?


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I'd absolutely love to see these Valyrian swords re-surface. I've always wondered what happened to Dark Sister and Blackfyre. Ice needs to be reforged too.

I think Varys or Illyrio have either Dark Sister or Blackfyre, or even possibly both. I wonder who'll get which sword, Arya seems a lock for wielding Dark Sister, but that seems too good to be true, and a bit cliche, so that'll probably not happen.

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I don't get the sword porn. Val steel daggers are dime a dozen in the book.

The blades are mostly for symbolism purpose. But really, who cares about Brightroar?

The only one that matters would be Blackfyre, which holds significance for Aegon's legitimacy.

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I don't get the sword porn. Val steel daggers are dime a dozen in the book.

The blades are mostly for symbolism purpose. But really, who cares about Brightroar?

The only one that matters would be Blackfyre, which holds significance for Aegon's legitimacy.

Wouldn't wielding Blackfyre make Aegon look like a Blackfyre? After Aegon IV legitimised his bastards the sword passed along the Blackfyre line so if Aegon turns up with GC and the sword it would look like another Blackfyre rebellion... it should be presented to him as a gift in his coronation by some high lord.

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Dark Sister is probably hidden somewhere at the Wall or in the CoTF's cave. (I have a crazy theory that Jon will end up in possession of it and will give it to Arya. It would be a similar scene to when Jon gave her Needle, which she would have lost by this point. At the end of the story, if both survive, Arya leaves and Jon tells her she needs a new sword and gives her Dark Sister. Hopefully, she doesn't lose this one. Cheesy, I know.)

I expect Blackfyre to be given to Aegon and later claimed by Dany.

I don't know if we'll see Brightroar, but I expect some conclusion to the Gerion mystery, dead or alive.

Dawn will almost assuredly show up at some point, probably in the hands of either Darkstar--stolen perhaps?--or Edric. (Dawn isn't a Valyrian blade, but it is talked about so much, it seems to fit this thread about lost famous weapons.)

Ive made post's about Arya getting DS from Jon so its not such a crazy theory. I believe it will happen! Aegon gave that sword to his sister, its made for a slim person ( Bloodraven - Aemon the Dragon Knight) both slim men. Jon being the heir to House Targaryen gives him the right to give DS to whoever he wishes

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Ive made post's about Arya getting DS from Jon so its not such a crazy theory. I believe it will happen! Aegon gave that sword to his sister, its made for a slim person ( Bloodraven - Aemon the Dragon Knight) both slim men. Jon being the heir to House Targaryen gives him the right to give DS to whoever he wishes

Bastards dont inherit anything. Daenerys is the heir or Aegon if he's really a Targaryen.

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Dark Sister is probably hidden somewhere at the Wall or in the CoTF's cave. (I have a crazy theory that Jon will end up in possession of it and will give it to Arya. It would be a similar scene to when Jon gave her Needle, which she would have lost by this point. At the end of the story, if both survive, Arya leaves and Jon tells her she needs a new sword and gives her Dark Sister. Hopefully, she doesn't lose this one. Cheesy, I know.)

I expect Blackfyre to be given to Aegon and later claimed by Dany.

I don't know if we'll see Brightroar, but I expect some conclusion to the Gerion mystery, dead or alive.

Dawn will almost assuredly show up at some point, probably in the hands of either Darkstar--stolen perhaps?--or Edric. (Dawn isn't a Valyrian blade, but it is talked about so much, it seems to fit this thread about lost famous weapons.)

Wasnt Dawn returned by Eddard Stark after he killed it's last owner, that is where he saw lyanna on her death bed

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Here's the compiled list so far:

Going from what's on awoiaf...

So what did BR do with DS? Did he take it to the wall? Is it in the cave?

And Blackfyre was wielded by Maelys the monstrous but not recovered by Barristan after slaying him?

We haven't had a whiff of these sweet-ass blades yet? Any thoughts? Do Varys and Mopatis have them squirreled away somewhere, waiting for fAegon to take the throne? Will Brightroar make an appearance? Will Ice get reforged somehow?

In the coming book, aside from prestige, its seems that having Valyrian steel will be even more important. I know that Kaggo corpsekiller has an arakh. A Celtigar has an axe.

Others: Corbray, Tarly, Jon Snow, Brienne (oathkeeper) and I guess Tommen/Varys (widow's wail) (though that 2nd half of Ice seems pretty easily poached). Any others that we've heard of?

Thoughts on these blades and their significances?

red rain (house drumm) and nightfall (house harlaw)

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There is Nightfall of House Harlaw wielded by the Knight, and Red Rain of House Drumm.

Blackfyre was probably kept by the GC. They will eventually give it to Aegon in TWoW, as until Daemon Blackfyre, it was the sword of Targaryen kings since Aegon I. Aegon would wield Blackfyre as symbol that he is the rightful heir to the IT. If it wasn't kept by the GC, it could have been kept by Maelys's sister or female reltive, Illyrio's wife, Serra, as the sword would have passed to the next of kin in House Blackfyre. Illyrio could have kept it after she died, and put it in one of the chests.

Dark Sister could have been brought by BR to the Wall. Aegon V could have allowed that, as the sword was given to BR, making it his, and he brought it with him to the cave of the CotF where it is kept.

Ice will be reforged, being made into two blades helped to symbolize the scattering of the Starks. The sword will be reforged as the Stark kids are brought back together. Think LOTR: Renewed shall be the blade that was broken. Bits of Aragorn's poem are found throught ASOIAF in some form.

I think we will meet Gerion again, revealed to be the corsair king mentioned in ASoS and AFfC, and he may have found Brightroar, and possibly the first person to ever sail to Valyria.

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Ice will be reforged, being made into two blades helped to symbolize the scattering of the Starks. The sword will be reforged as the Stark kids are brought back together. Think LOTR: Renewed shall be the blade that was broken. Bits of Aragorn's poem are found throught ASOIAF in some form.

I think we will meet Gerion again, revealed to be the corsair king mentioned in ASoS and AFfC, and he may have found Brightroar, and possibly the first person to ever sail to Valyria.

I dont think Martin will reforge Ice. To be honest it would be just lame and predictable. I like the thought Gerion being the corsair king though...

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Going from what's on awoiaf...

So what did BR do with DS? Did he take it to the wall? Is it in the cave?

And Blackfyre was wielded by Maelys the monstrous but not recovered by Barristan after slaying him?

We haven't had a whiff of these sweet-ass blades yet? Any thoughts? Do Varys and Mopatis have them squirreled away somewhere, waiting for fAegon to take the throne? Will Brightroar make an appearance? Will Ice get reforged somehow?

In the coming book, aside from prestige, its seems that having Valyrian steel will be even more important. I know that Kaggo corpsekiller has an arakh. A Celtigar has an axe. Others: Corbray, Tarly, Jon Snow, Brienne and I guess Tommen/Varys (though that 2nd half of Ice seems pretty easily poached). Any others that we've heard of?

Thoughts on these blades and their significances?

With regards to Ice...I found it unusually the just before riding back with Bolton's men to save Brienne from the bear pit Jaimie had a dream were both them were wielding identical swords with blue glowing light and in the dream Cersei whispers that he shall live as long as the blue flame burns on (or something like that) ...then Jaimie's "light" goes out first in the dream

Then once he gets back to KL Tywin gives him half of Ice, he then turns around and gives "Oathkeeper" to Brienne before sending her off. With Joff dead I am curious where Widow's Wail is and if Jaimie and Brienne aren't in fact now carrying the two halves if Ice?

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I love this sword porn. Unfortunately as much as I would like to see all the swords resurfacing I don't think it is very likely. This is GRRM after all!...

I have a question though and i may make a post about it: Why did some of the the great houses of Westeros have Valyrian steel swords pre Aegons conquest?

I am of the belief that Dragonsteel = Valyrian Steel. This could justify the reason why the great houses have them. So when the Long Night decends these ceremonial/super swords can be used to fight the others.

Apolagies for the structure and spelling in this post. I am half asleep :P

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