Selyxi Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Quaithe's prophecies and cryptic advice have been a topic of discussion here many times over, I know. I have been reading some of them recently and since I didn't read this notion from anyone else, I figured I'd share my thoughts.I have actually been thinking that "pass beneath the shadow" might mean Dany needs to venture into the Smoking Sea and the ruins of Valyria. I imagine that area as unnaturally dark on a constant basis. Given Dany's heavily Valyrian heritage and her dragons that are in desperate need of discipline, it seems to me that going there could prove useful for her. I could see going there being even more necessitated by the dragon horn VIctarion's got,especially if it means finding or learning something that Dany can use to keep her dragons. Plus, it also involves going south (you know, to eventually go north) and it would be on the way for Dany to get to Westeros (freakin' finally). Of course, I admit that this might be a much more figurative shadow, but if we're talking about a place, that's what I'm hoping it means. I think I read here that GRRM has said we won't be visiting Asshai, so I would guess that the shadow-that-it's-by may be ruled out. I admit this is partially fueled by my desire to visit this place through a PoV character. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would be nice to visit the ruins of ancient Valyria but I doubt it's actually Valyria. I saw a video on YouTube about Elio saying that passing under might mean when Drogon's shadow engulfed the fighting fit and Dany as well in Meeren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantinος Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, this is a good one!If the "shadow" is a place, then it could be either Ashai or Valyria. I think Martin said we won't go to Ashai, so it would be probaply Valyria. And I won't someone to pass through Mantarys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 This is what I originally thought and hoped, but he may have wasted too much of Dany's time frittering around Slaver's Bay for her to take yet another side trip before heading to Westeros. Though, I suppose if she's flying on Drogon, that could eliminate some of the timing problems, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Id have to reread but I thought it was made clear that Quaithe just wanted to get Dany into Asshai asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantinος Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Id have to reread but I thought it was made clear that Quaithe just wanted to get Dany into Asshai asap.I thought that too, but it makes more sense if Dany must go to Valyria. Ashai is too far away while Valyria is on the way to Westeros. Of course, Valyria is neither East or South of Quarth and that weakens the OP's theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would be nice to visit the ruins of ancient Valyria but I doubt it's actually Valyria. I saw a video on YouTube about Elio saying that passing under might mean when Drogon's shadow engulfed the fighting fit and Dany as well in MeerenThat's what I think as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selyxi Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Ah, I forgot that Qarth is as far south as it is (just checked a map). But it's basically the southern most point in Essos, so unless she should be going to Sothoros, I don't think the direction necessarily means in relation to Qarth, but rather wherever she is when remembers Quaithe's words and decides to act on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I thought Quaithe was speaking about Asshai, but that is a bit too obvious so it could be something less litteral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I thought Quaithe was speaking about Asshai, but that is a bit too obvious so it could be something less litteral.I've lost all hope at seeing Asshai in first person. I suspect we'll see it in a flashback from Mels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a white raven Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I would love it if Dany stopped by Valyria on her way to Westeros, but I'm doubtful that we will see either Valyria or Asshai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gery Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Im re-reading CoK now and maybe "pass beneath the shadow" is just Danys journey through the House of the Undying. There are several references in that chapter to shadows and darkness and passing under things. For example the "palace of dust" (a shadow of its former glory perhaps) is a low building with black tiles on its roof. It stands among those tall black trees of which shade of the evening is made. She even drinks some. The whole chapter has this gloomy and dark feel to it. Anyway, its just another theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I've wondered if the shadow means the Wall. The Wall is the largest structure around, and so has the largest shadow.Weird thing is, i've read interesting evidence that the Wall doesn't even have a shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard King Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Weird thing is, i've read interesting evidence that the Wall doesn't even have a shadow.Interesting. Where was this? any more details please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Interesting. Where was this? any more details please?Ah, i read stuff about it a while back, and i can't find it even with google. It concerned the growth of vegetation. Sorry to be so vague, i can just remember it was very interesting. It was in small questions so i just can't locate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard King Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Ah, i read stuff about it a while back, and i can't find it even with google. It concerned the growth of vegetation. Sorry to be so vague, i can just remember it was very interesting. It was in small questions so i just can't locate it.No worries bud,something like that can only be put in the story for a reason so it should appear in one of the next books. Just interested in where whoever wrote it got the information from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Crow Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Valyria or the Smoking Sea of Valyria has a lot going for it, especially if Azor Ahai is to be reborn amidst smoke and salt. There have certainly been more than enough hints about it. and it would also be consistent with what Quaithe said about going back, because that would be going back to where the Targaryens and their dragons came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Ashaii is constantly call Ashaii by the Shadow. I always took this as she will go east to get to Westeros, passing through Ashaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthyr Dracenstein Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Ah, i read stuff about it a while back, and i can't find it even with google. It concerned the growth of vegetation. Sorry to be so vague, i can just remember it was very interesting. It was in small questions so i just can't locate it.Could be about how the trees north of the Wall started growing next to the Wall when Jon and the Wildlings climbed it. That far north, the trees shouldn't be growing close to the Wall because the Wall being 700 feet high wouldn't let sunlight do whateveritis they do to encourage plant growth. But plants don't need direct sunlight to grow, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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