Urien the Ragged Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 We're yet to see how will that develop, for all we know Jon is "dead" and when the invasion will happen. I presume it will be when North is most fragile, and thats when armies go south.weren't few Vances allied with Freys, and didn't virtually all Riverlords gave hostages to KL, some to Jaime himself directly? And what of it?I know that Black Walder killed one of the Vances at the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 This theory seems to confuse show Stannis with book Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor the Cuddly Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I don't see the basis for this.Davos and Stannis are one step away from Stavos, and if anything, Stannis would more than welcome Rickon. Why did Wyman send Stannis's best man to retrieve the believed heir to Winterfell, if not for Stannis's favor? Stannis wants Rickon back in Winterfell to solidify Northern support. Get Lord Paramount Rickon Stark to swear fealty to the true King on the Iron Throne and what remains of the North will follow in step with King Stannis. They'll have their Stark, there will be a King on the Iron Throne who will owe the North much, they will return to the relative stability that they had before Rickard's decision to join in with Southron politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertOfTheHouseBaratheon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yes I believe Robert is right. Stannis was heir to the Iron Throne, but not Liege lord of the Stormlands. The bannermen were originally Renlys. Renly was the only one who can be blamed for what those bannermen did, they had served Renly for 18 years, why stop now.In fact if you look at what Stannis has been through, loosing the Blackwater for example, his men have been remarkably loyal, no doubt the religion has helped in that regard. Looking at Davos's unquavering loyalty, the chants at Winterfell and the hardship his troops endure, you actually see that Stannis inspires great loyalty in his followers. That line repeated by Renly and the Lannisters that people dislike Stannis is absolute rubbish. After years of Robert's excess people are worried about the change Stannis would bring in but for those that actually serve him, they love him dearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napyura Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I know that Black Walder killed one of the Vances at the Red Wedding.There are 2 Vance houses, Atranta and Wayfarer's. Atranta ones are married into Freys, but that counts for nothing I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I still don't think Davos will be foolish enough to let Stannis hear about his return from someone else. Davos isn't going to present Rickon to Manderly, not without presenting himself to Stannis first and revealing what has happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Hodor IV Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 this whole thread is insulting. why would davos betray stannis? Stannis is everything to Davos, gave him everything, this would go completely against his arc and will not happen. Davos will retrieve Rickon and return him to the North, and if Stannis is alive he will be really happy to see Davos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonalame Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Davos will not switch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharvot Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Davos won't switch until Stannis dies and his hand is forced (no pun intended). I think that will happen, Stannis' fires are burning low as it is. Ultimately, Stannis will turn to Jon to lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardsHead Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 i don't really think that the north will proclaim Rickon as King of the North. They still remember what happened to the last one and Lord Wyman wants Stannis king. So taking in consideration the northern conspiracy theory so will many other important houses. In their eyes Stannis saved and retrieved the true Lord of Winterfel. Exactly, then Stannis can set up a betrothal of Rickon and Shireen and rule as King Regent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbringer Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The King in the North was a stupid idea to begin with and it is dead as disco. If Davos comes back with Rickon, the North is his, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monctonvike Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 It would take something huge for Davos to turn on Stannis. I can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron of Doomed Valyria Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Shireen will maybe marry Aegon Vi after stannis and jon connington dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser_Tom007 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I like this idea Davos is one if my favourite characters. Only I'd like to see Jon as KitN and maybe Davos end up being Jon's Hand. I just can't see Davos leaving Stannis, unless he dies, he's too loyal to betray Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monctonvike Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I like this idea Davos is one if my favourite characters. Only I'd like to see Jon as KitN and maybe Davos end up being Jon's Hand. I just can't see Davos leaving Stannis, unless he dies, he's too loyal to betray Stannis. :agree: Very much agree, I see Davos stand up Stannis at times but I cannot see them switch. Maybe if Stannis goes crazy and goes all out evil he would kill Davos but I have a hard time with that one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disputatious Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Davos: I'd rather fight than switch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ser_Tom007 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Davos: I'd rather fight than switch!^^^ thisThe only way Davos leaves Stannis (other than Stannis dying of course) is if Mel tries to kill any of his surviving family; they are the only thing, I think, that Davos loves more than Stannis. And there is that line in Dance where Mel is talking about how she glamoured Mance and mentions a "bag of finger bones" being used like she used rattleshirt's bone armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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