why all the littlefinger hate?

[danm_999]

No you are not.

Well, with respect, I disagree. When I say Robb and Catelyn would help Jeyne, I point to a consistent pattern of actions on their part of going above and beyond to help people (sometimes complete strangers and enemies) at great cost to themselves and their war effort. When I say Tywin wouldn't care about negative PR from Jeyne Poole, I point to his past behaviour at Castamere, with Elia and her children, with his invasions of the Riverlands. When I say Littlefinger has the authority to ransom prisoners, and act with autonomy, I point to his forging of the Tyrell alliance, and his handling of the Redwyne hostage situation. I do feel I'm holding up my end here on justifying my assertions with textual evidence.

Now, if you disagree about these things, there's going to have to be a bit of elucidation as to why, or the discussion can't really go anywhere.

There is nothing in the text to indicate what Tywin knew about Jeyne or how much and to what extent Tywin, Jaime, Cersei and LF colluded on the fake Arya plan and how all that came to be. It's all just speculation at this point.

I 100% agree. I'm not even sure Tywin ever heard the name Jeyne Poole. If you re-read the thread, you'll notice this is Third Reed's assertion that Tywin knew, and that Littlefinger had to give Jeyne to him.

They treat other people at great cost to themselves and they KNOW it's a mistake and that it hinders their war efforts.

But it's still something they consistently do. It's in their character.

Robb's marrying Jeyne Westerling and whether he would ransom the steward's daughter are two completely different issues and not comparable IMO.

Why? Two young women with the same name? One Robb has a romantic bond with, another that Robb grew up with at Winterfell. Why assume he's going to want to help one and not the other. Robb is very nostalgic for that time in his life; he does everything he can to try and save his sisters, he takes Bran and Rickon's death very hard, and he even tries to get Jon released from his Night's Watch vows by floating the idea of sending the Watch 100 men. I can't see why he would abandon Jeyne.

I would say that what Robb did with Karstark was a mistake too, but he was following the law. Killing prisoners of war is I am going to assume not the done thing during war in Westeros. The Lannisters could have retaliated by killing Northern prisoners. He had to do it since it was a code of conduct. But the point is that if he went out the way to ransom Jeyne then his men are going to demand that their kin who were prisoners be ransomed too.

No, Robb was following his personal code of ethics.

I know what I said, Uncle. It does not change what I must do.” The swords in his crown stood stark and black against his brow. “In battle I might have slain Tion and Willem myself, but this was no battle. They were asleep in their beds, naked and unarmed, in a cell where I put them. Rickard Karstark killed more than a Frey and a Lannister. He killed my honor. I shall deal with him at dawn.

Again why should Jeyne be singled out for special treatment?

What special treatment? Northern nobles get ransomed quite frequently. Some individuals (Wyllis Manderly) more than once.

What would their war effort gain from ransoming Jeyne?

As I've said, this concern is often irrelevant to the ways in which Robb and Catelyn make decisions.

I agree that Tywin would not have cared about news of the slaughter getting out. But I think that's not the reason for LF not ransoming Jeyne Poole. He did it because she was a nobody, house Poole or not. Cersei did not care for whether Jeyne Poole belonged to house Poole. She just wanted her disposed off. By which she probably meant having her killed or be made prisoner. I doubt that Cersei intended for Jeyne Poole to be taken safely to WF (I am speculating here).

I agree 100% with all of this. If you go back and read my exchanges with Third Reed, you'll notice he/she has been arguing that Tywin cared about news of the slaughter getting out, that Littlefinger absolutely couldn't ransom Jeyne, and that Cersei did care about Jeyne staying under Lannister influence.

Given what we know of LF, I think it would be extremely out of character for him to risk his neck and go out of the way to ransom or get this girl to safety. Makes no sense. She is not worth anything.

I absolutely agree. This is the point I've been arguing. Littlefinger doesn't help not because he can't, but because he doesn't want to.

We have someone like Jaime, who is often held up on these boards as being a paragon of virtue when it comes to women,

Woah what? I'm not sure you should be pushing this as a given. Jaime has a pretty horrendous track record with women;

Standing by while Aerys raped Rhaella, planning to murder Arya on the Trident, threatening to catapult Roslin Frey and her unborn baby into Riverrun, the creepy semi-non consentual sex he has with Cersei on Joffrey's bier, the initial treatment he gives Brienne until she repeatedly proves herself.

I mean, he's far from the worst, but a paragon of virtue he ain't. No prizes for any character who is on his level with their treatment of women.

Why would it make a difference that Jeyne is the only surviving Northmen in KL?

Well you said she was one of "countless other Northern prisoners", and I can count to two.

All other Northern prisoners are ransomed with a degree of alacrity.

As for Wylis Manderly, he got ransomed after the RW and after Northern Rebellion was essentially over.

Actually this is the second time Wylis was ransomed. The first was after the Battle of the Green Fork.

The fact that some Northeners have been ransomed twice sort of undercuts the argument that ransoming Jeyne once would be special treatment.

Robett was exchanged for another Lannister. That's a military exchange.

Martyn Lannister was a boy. It was a political exchange.

Because maybe he loved the girl? Maybe after seeing what happened to Jon he did not want to father a bastard? Who knows. But it was a deeply personal issue (Unlike with WF steward's daughter Jeyne Poole).

As I said, Robb grew up with Jeyne, she was his sister's best friend, Robb has a history of going above and beyond for the innocent and for those he loves. I don't see why he'd leave her to rot.

Catelyn had nothing to lose in saving Brienne. She knew that Brienne did not kill Renly and she was right there in front of her. She knew the truth and told the truth. That was it. Catelyn did not go out of the way or stick her neck or risk her son's war effort with what she did for Brienne.

Catelyn had a hell of a lot to risk. Her life, first of all, if Loras Tyrell or other Renly supporters caught her escaping with Brienne. It also put, conclusively, an end to any possibility of a Stark-Tyrell alliance.

As for Karstark, as I already mentioned it had nothing to do with Robb's personal honor. Allowing one's soldiers to kill POWs is not the done thing.

And you are spectacularly wrong.

I know what I said, Uncle. It does not change what I must do.” The swords in his crown stood stark and black against his brow. “In battle I might have slain Tion and Willem myself, but this was no battle. They were asleep in their beds, naked and unarmed, in a cell where I put them. Rickard Karstark killed more than a Frey and a Lannister. He killed my honor. I shall deal with him at dawn.

I don't see Robb giving up anything important for Jeyne and if anyone thought so the Lannisters would have done it themselves.

I'm suggesting an exchange based on currency.

[WinterKing]

The thread has gone a bit off topic,no?

[Maester Domeric]

I agree, that's why my fear of how he will be killed seems to be that the most popular theory is he will try to rape Sansa, she will screech in horror and have hi killed, or he will apparently be trying to rape her near an open Moon Door and she'll shove him out.

She deserves a better story arc than that and he deserves a better death.

Yeah, my best case scenario is one where Sansa and Littlefingers arcs can resolve without one killing the other, but thats extremely unlikely or at the very least extremely unpopular on these boards.

I'm not saying I want to see the two of them together, but Sansa becoming a little darker under his influence and learning to operate like he does would be a very interesting way to develop her character. Arya as a subversion of gender roles and embracing the physical brutality of killing and Sansa as a subversion of the archetypal Stark honor and political naivete and embracing subterfuge. Then it sets itself up for a kind of Sith, apprentice kills the master kind of situation. She will kill him, but with it goes her last vestiges of innocence. But who knows. But atleast my hypothetical situation isn't some schmaltzy ending where Sansa remains this bastion of purity and then rides into the sunset with Sandor to live happily ever after :ack: .

[Maester Domeric]

Sorry for DP, but I just noticed this.

Wrong on so many levels. LF is frickin' rich. He could have just kept her in a room under house arrest. If the Lannisters didn't give a fuck, he could have ransomed her back. Or he could have let her go. He had many, many other options.

EDIT: He could have had her work in the kitchens or as a servant too if caring for her without profit was too big of a concern.

I don't think he had that many options. Why would Littlefinger at his own expense take care of some no-nothing girl from some now extinct minor house? Since when is Petyr Baelish, an owner of whore houses, expected to be charitable?

He could have let her go? Exactly how long would a highborne girl like Jeyne Poole last in the streets of King's Landing before being brutalized, gang raped and then killed? Or was he also suppose to pay for her passage on a ship and hire guards for her to escort her to Winterfell?

I'm still not sure exactly who she hypothetically would have been ransomed to as it appears she is that last member of House Poole. The Starks? Why, other than the notion that the Starks are a bunch broadsword-wielding Mother Theresas would they pay ransom, presumably to the Lannisters or at the very least people who they think are aligned with the Lannisters, for a girl who has no political or military value to pretty much anyone? "Ohh but Robb Stark, hes so dreamy and honorable, he'll surely pay anyprice for Jeyne Poole when he wouldn't do the same thing for his own sister".

Talking about ransoming other Northern hostages as reason for say Jeyne would be easily ransomed is sort deceptive. All the hostages we see are someone with military/political value or the children of said people. Jayne Poole is none of these things, shes the scion to a politically insignificant minor house whos greatest achievement is that they make sure the Starks pantry is stocked.

The thread has gone a bit off topic,no?

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some parts but alot of this related back to understanding LF's actions and thus why he's hated.

[Southpaw89]

He's a great character to read but he's perfect definition of a psychopath.

[NorthSouthEastWesteros]

Yeah, my best case scenario is one where Sansa and Littlefingers arcs can resolve without one killing the other, but thats extremely unlikely or at the very least extremely unpopular on these boards.

I'm not saying I want to see the two of them together, but Sansa becoming a little darker under his influence and learning to operate like he does would be a very interesting way to develop her character. Arya as a subversion of gender roles and embracing the physical brutality of killing and Sansa as a subversion of the archetypal Stark honor and political naivete and embracing subterfuge. Then it sets itself up for a kind of Sith, apprentice kills the master kind of situation. She will kill him, but with it goes her last vestiges of innocence. But who knows. But atleast my hypothetical situation isn't some schmaltzy ending where Sansa remains this bastion of purity and then rides into the sunset with Sandor to live happily ever after :ack: .

THISTHISTHIS!!! I actually hope she uses his lust to her advantage and 'sleeps with the enemy,' learns his tricks as well as his crimes in pillow talk and formulates some sort of plan (my idea hasn't developed further than that)

ASOIAF has shown us you have to play the game. As Cersei said (in this time period anyway) 'a woman's tears aren't her only weapon.'

Sansa doesn't have to sleep with him, just play along with his kissing games and act innocently attracted (he does seem to have a thing about maidenheads...) and I see him spilling his guts 'for a kiss' etc.

It doesn't have to be sex, but since she's not a fighterlike Arya and she's been set up to be learning how to play The Game, I don't see how else she could be dark? And I really want to see her play dirty. You can't beat LittleFinger playing fair, because he changes the rules.

[NorthSouthEastWesteros]

He's a great character to read but he's perfect definition of a psychopath.

No, more of a sociopath if people insist on diagnosis. A psychopath is someone like Ramsay or Gregor. Sociopaths can fool people.

[danm_999]

The formal pardon was symbolic more than anything else.

The differences between the Tyrell and Stark negotiations are pretty large. The negotiations with the Starks centred around hostage negotiation, and (at this point) unrealistic peace terms. The Tyrell negotiation was direct diplomacy (with the one exception of Hobber, who isn't even directly tied to the Tyrells), centred on a marriage pact. There were no Tyrell troops in direct conflict with Lannister armies. The Tyrells had not made any inroads towards the Westerlands. The tone of the negotiations was entirely different.

I don't care about tone, I care about importance. The Tyrell negotations and the return of the Redwyne hostage are exponentially more important to House Lannister than Jeyne Poole. So you saying that Littlefinger is not trusted to handle the latter, when he's trusted to handle the former is nonsense.

I have said they're unrealistic, because getting Jeyne out in any other way would be a pointless (and grave) risk for next to no gain.

That doesn't make it unrealistic. It makes it something Littlefinger doesn't want to do. This is why people are criticising him.

What's more, you talk as if this character trait is localised entirely to the Great One, which is ludicrous. Unselfishness is not a very common thing in Westeros, and when people show it, it often blows up in their face.

I've never once argued Littlefinger is alone in being a piece of shit. This is just pettifogging to try and bandage a severely weak argument.

See Robb, Theon, Jon to a lesser extent, Mance's spearwives, Mance himself it could be argued, Brienne. The scenarios you have suggested are just wastes of time for the Great One. They are massive risk and minimal reward. They're utterly unrealistic.

That's not what unrealistic means.

Yes, the Great One has a financial talent. He himself does not seek money above all else though.

He seeks to use money; the crown incomes getting him the Master of Coin job, the Harrenhall incomes allowing him to marry Lysa, buying up the debt of Houses in the Vale securing his position as Lord Protector, his building of the Tyrell alliance with "gold reasons", his influence in King's Landing by bribing everyone with a pulse.

Littlefinger has no army, no strong political influence, he has gold. Tyrion himself declares;

If ever truly a man had armored himself in gold, it was Petyr Baelish, not Jaime Lannister. Jaime’s famous armor was but gilded steel, but Littlefinger, ah . . . Tyrion had learned a few things about sweet Petyr, to his growing disquiet.

Declaring he wouldn't have a use for more gold is just a spectacular misunderstanding of the character.

Ok, fine, we'll add Ned's inanimate bones to the things that Catelyn cares about. The list does still not include Jeyne.

Because...?

As stated, Catelyn is a person who risks her neck for strangers. Why wouldn't she try and help the best friend of her beloved daughter?

Jeyne is Robb's wife with whom he is in love.

Not when they married. Robb married her because he wanted to preserve her honour, even though she was a stranger.

Catelyn leaves with Brienne because she is there

Catelyn could easily have left Brienne there.

(not to mention if things got testy Brienne would help her get back to her party).

The far safer option, for both Catelyn's well being and Robb's chances of a Tyrell alliance, would be to throw Brienne under the bus. If Catelyn was caught by Renly's forces, an extra warrior would mean nought. Catelyn does a very selfless and very damaging thing here to save an innocent.

She would not have gone back to save her or anything. Karstark is executed because of the law.

Wrong;

Rickard Karstark killed more than a Frey and a Lannister. He killed my honor. I shall deal with him at dawn.

Again, Robb's true north; his honour.

At no point (I think) in Catelyn chapters does she give serious thought to Jeyne.

Because everyone thinks she's dead.

The smallfolk, as I've said.

The smallfolk don't give a shit about Ned's household guard; why would they care about that when House Lannister is directly killing them. Or to put it more eloquently;

The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends,” Ser Jorah told her. “It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace.

People in KL believe that Ned was a traitor and killed legitimately. They may bery well assume that the non-military part of his household was not massacred

Why would they assume this? Smallfolk we've seen at court don't even know the difference between the King and the Hand. You think they're going to know/care about slaughtered stewards when they're starving or being massacred by the Lannisters?

(which, considering that even Ramsay Bolton did not execute on sight the female portion of Winterfell, doesn't seem that much of a stretch).

This isn't told to the smallfolk; this is told to Robb by Roose. Do you think Robb doesn't assume Ned's household dead? Do you think finding out they are dead is going to worsen Robb's image of House Lannister? How can it?

Cue Jeyne being released to the outside world, and the nature of the slaughter (of women and non-fighters) in the Tower becoming common knowledge.

The Lannisters are already known as the family that killed Elia of Dorne and two babies! That burnt Castamere to the ground! That sacked King's Landing! Why do you think this incident is unique for them?

Cue the potential of Sansa having talked to Jeyne and what she may know. It could potentially be awful awful PR.

As I've said, and you ignored, Cersei already seperated them. There's no potential for any problem.

It's both.

Insofar as everything diplomatic is military; but Robb's terms aren't a military play.

[danm_999]

Wars go on for indefinite periods. If it became prolonged, every penny would be crucial.

So you're ignoring Robb Stark's financial situation, and banking on him counting coppers over helping a childhood friend? Again, a spectacular misreading of a character.

I doubt so anymore. Jeyne's father is dead, and we know of no other living family. We are never told of any members of House Poole making up Robb's host, Bran does not see their sigil at Winterfell, they are never seen to have any influence.

Killing Jeyne's father doesn't make her 'not a noble' you know.

Yes, but they don't know for sure how much Ned ever discussed with Sansa.

Yes they do, Sansa comes to Cersei the night before the coup. Ned and Sansa are never reunited again after the coup. There's zero opportunity for Ned to have told her anything about the will, about the coup, about anything.

They don't know what Sansa may have told Jeyne in the room when they were together.

But they know they weren't present for anything damaging. There's nothing to tell.

He has never sent anyone there before.

So? Do you think Cersei knows or cares? She ordered him to get her out of the city.

Now he sends a girl there, a girl who is potentially damaging, to the region of the as-yet uncommitted Lysa Tully and her c.20k swords. He undertakes extra time and money to put further suspicion upon himself. It would be utter stupidity (not to mention, if he treats Sansa's friend with what seems like special treatment, it could lead people to join the dots later).

She doesn't become potentially damaging because you keep saying it. It contradicts everything Cersei says to Littlefinger about the girl.

Yes, I've measured up Tywin's character and made an educated guess. It's what most of the forum (and this thread, from both myself and you) has been built on.

But as I said, you have no textual evidence, and I think a spectacularly bad habit of misreading major motivations of characters. But let's see how we do on this one.

What you (willfully?) are ignoring here is that PR is dependent on situation. Tywin does care about PR, and I'll explain why.

The sack of KL- Tywin explains this to Tyrion in the books. The Sack was precisely a PR exercise done for the benefit of Robert.

Off to a bad start here.

No, Tywin never justifies the sack as a way of getting into Robert's good book. I mean, how could he? Robert had King's Landing. Aerys army was destroyed on the Trident. Why would Robert thank Tywin for sacking a city Robert wanted to possess? Tywin did this to solidify his reputation as a person you don't fuck with.

Tywin's refusal to commit to either side prior to the Trident left him needing to provide his loyalty to Robert following it. He sought positive PR from Robert and his army.

No, this is the justification he uses for killing Elia, Aegon and Rhaenys. This he justifies because he knew Robert didn't want to be seen killing children, and Tywin was more than happy to do it. So as we can see, Tywin is perfectly happy to use bad PR to advance his standing.

The Reynes- Another PR exercise, but done in a slightly different manner. As we have been told in the books, Tytos Lannister was a weak man. His vassal lords ignored him and he was taken advantage of financially. The crushing of the Reynes (and Tarbecks, who had acted in a similar manner) was done by Tywin in order to re-establish House Lannister's control. It was to show that he would no be fucked with in the same way as his father. It was part of what established Tywin's reputation. His public persona.

And so why would a man who wanted this persona be scared of having it re-enforced with the Red Keep slaughter?

The major difference between these events and the arrest of Ned is that in this example the Lannisters have the power and are attempting to present themselves as upholders of righteousness.

What?

They invade the Riverlands over Tyrion's arrest. They remind people of Castamere through song.They keep Clegane around and protect him specifically because;

No other knight in the realm inspires such terror in our enemies.

They dismissed Barristan, and hung the innkeeper at the Crossroads for being present at Tyrion's arrest. They executed people in open court after the Blackwater.

The Lannisters are not, and have never tried to appear just. They try to appear strong. The Jeyne story aids this narrative.

There's projecting strength and there's butchery.

And in Tywin's playbook, this is one and the same.

I may be remembering wrongly at this point, but the shift in mindset is further shown by Tywin's willingness to pardon houses which come back onto the Lannister side. Doesn't he say something about generousness in victory to Tyrion?

He says when an enemy has bent the knee you help them up, but the Starks had not bent the knee, and refused to do so, hence this Tywin-ism is completely irrelevant to our discussion of Jeyne.

Of course I don't have textual evidence. Tywin is not a POV. Roose is not a POV. The Great One is not a POV. The Frey involved is not a POV. The letters and negotiations behind the RW were kept top secret. It's a well educated guess, much like many of your arguments. However, as with the Great One, you seek the impossible and implausible/

You don't need a POV to get textual evidence.

It is rather amusing mass child-murderer Varys is given such an easy ride in comparison to the Great One.

Hey, if you want to make a thread about how Varys is despicable, I'm all ears, but I'm only pointing out the cockless wonder is pulling off moves Littlefinger appears too scared off.

[Southpaw89]

No, more of a sociopath if people insist on diagnosis. A psychopath is someone like Ramsay or Gregor. Sociopaths can fool people.

No psychopath really. I'm not talking about psychopath as in brutal like Ramsay. I'm talking about the psychological disorder where people have shallow emotions, cold hearted, basically emotionless, etc. It almost fits Littlefinger exactly.

[NorthSouthEastWesteros]

No psychopath really. I'm not talking about psychopath as in brutal like Ramsay. I'm talking about the psychological disorder where people have shallow emotions, cold hearted, basically emotionless, etc. It almost fits Littlefinger exactly.

If you can fool people, you're a sociopath. If you can't, you're a psychopath. Even if you do the exact same thing behind closed doors.

[NorthSouthEastWesteros]

No psychopath really. I'm not talking about psychopath as in brutal like Ramsay. I'm talking about the psychological disorder where people have shallow emotions, cold hearted, basically emotionless, etc. It almost fits Littlefinger exactly.

Actually I think I'll stop the internet diagnoses of fake characters, they annoy me. The only one I saw that I thought was really interesting was a really indepth look at Stannis having Aspergers.

[Lord Bronn Stokeworth]

I don't think he had that many options. 1 Why would Littlefinger at his own expense take care of some no-nothing girl from some now extinct minor house? Since when is Petyr Baelish, an owner of whore houses, expected to be charitable?

2 He could have let her go? Exactly how long would a highborne girl like Jeyne Poole last in the streets of King's Landing before being brutalized, gang raped and then killed? Or was he also suppose to pay for her passage on a ship and hire guards for her to escort her to Winterfell?

3 I'm still not sure exactly who she hypothetically would have been ransomed to as it appears she is that last member of House Poole. The Starks? Why, other than the notion that the Starks are a bunch broadsword-wielding Mother Theresas would they pay ransom, presumably to the Lannisters or at the very least people who they think are aligned with the Lannisters, for a girl who has no political or military value to pretty much anyone? "Ohh but Robb Stark, hes so dreamy and honorable, he'll surely pay anyprice for Jeyne Poole when he wouldn't do the same thing for his own sister".

Talking about ransoming other Northern hostages as reason for say Jeyne would be easily ransomed is sort deceptive. All the hostages we see are someone with military/political value or the children of said people. Jayne Poole is none of these things, shes the scion to a politically insignificant minor house whos greatest achievement is that they make sure the Starks pantry is stocked.

1. A bit benevolent for LF, but still an alternative to murder or sex slavery.

2. So, your justification for sex slavery is that something bad might have happened otherwise? This really does not make any sense beyond being a sad excuse to justify sex slavery.

3. Would she have scored a lot of money? No. But I am sure Robb and Cat would have offered enough to make it profitable. I'm sure Robb would even have sent an envoy to pick her up.

I don't get how "Well he wouldn't make a lot money for ransoming her so sex slavery was better" is supposed to be a remotely moral view. LF has no right to make huge amounts of money off of a random girl.

He could have been kind (taking decent care of her or letting her go under some sort guard), apathetic (letting her go without any sort of guard), self-serving but still acceptable morally (make some money by ransoming her or have work as some sort of servant), or be self-serving in a completely wrong manner (forcing her into sex slavery). He chose the last.

I mean if you're talking about LF's point of view, sure. He is completely amoral. However, I am talking about from a moral (or better known common human decency*) viewpoint. LF had plenty of choices. He chose an immoral option because it happened to serve him better.

*And yes, I am saying common human decency is not compatible with sex slavery.

[TrueMetis]

Want to point out that Jeyne being the last Poole makes her more important not less, as at this point she's the only one who can continue her line.

[bbstark]

25 pages and still going strong?

also I'm worried about some people following this post... babysitting and child care might not be a good career choice for some of you...

[Techelles]

Danm wins this thread. No contest. Not even close. That is all.

[bbstark]

true dat :thumbsup:

the LFans at this point are just scraping the bottom of the pan...I mean, isn't it time to stop when you start debating the economic benefit of sex slavery over ransom?

[StarkDragon]

498 Posts of LittleFinger hate and still going strong!

Personally I like LittleFinger in his ability of skill, but finds his methods truly outrageous and unsupportable. (Funny, same as I did with Tywin... and only after Tywin died did I even notice LF...)

[Lord Illidan Stormrage]

true dat :thumbsup:

the LFans at this point are just scraping the bottom of the pan...I mean, isn't it time to stop when you start debating the economic benefit of sex slavery over ransom?

You are overthinking it - he does not care for her. He did not spend time thinking about her, evaluating what do with her or how to treat her. He sended her to one of his brothels and that's as much as he is involved. Apart from his brothels Petyr has many investments, goods, trades, political maneuvaring and so much more to do - do someone actually believe he cares, took note or participated is some way in her prostitution? The show Littlefinger seems to be presented as some small time pimp and this is being reflected by some people on book Littlefinger but this is not the case.

[TrueMetis]

You are overthinking it - he does not care for her. He did not spend time thinking about her, evaluating what do with her or how to treat her. He sended her to one of his brothels and that's as much as he is involved. Apart from his brothels Petyr has many investments, goods, trades, political maneuvaring and so much more to do - do someone actually believe he cares, took note or participated is some way in her prostitution? The show Littlefinger seems to be presented as some small time pimp and this is being reflected by some people on book Littlefinger but this is not the case.

So what your saying is Littlefinger forces people into prostitution so often he doesn't even have to specify that's what to be done? That it's just regular business to him...

I'm not sure how this is better than him specifying that Jenye is to become a prostitute. In fact it sounds much much worse.