Jon's Queen Consort Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 So let’s say thay Lord XY had premarital relationship with his fiancée Lady XX and she gets with child and the child was born before their marriage (for any reason) and they later married. The child will still be a bastard even if he is the child of two people who have married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I think it would... are there any examples of this happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudu Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I think it would still be a bastard. But the king would surely accept legitimizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Afaik and for what it's worth, as far as the British Crown is concerned, if your parents only marry after you're born, you're out of the succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Well, they would probably try to rush the marriage, unless they get separated by war or something. And even then, they might get married by proxy - that seems easy to annul, but in this situation, they won't want to annul it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Targ Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I think it's a bastard, but the Lord can ask the king to legitimize the child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Ennepe Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Well, they would probably try to rush the marriage, unless they get separated by war or something. And even then, they might get married by proxy - that seems easy to annul, but in this situation, they won't want to annul it.seems the most likely solution for such a situation to me.And even if not, what King would object to legitimise the "bastard"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor the Cuddly Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 seems the most likely solution for such a situation to me.And even if not, what King would object to legitimise the "bastard"?A king who doesn't like the lord in question. ;)But I am pretty sure they're still legally a bastard, but can be legitimized all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 So the child comes after his brothers and sisters who are born after their parent's marriage?@SerE I love your sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zupoleon Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Logistically, I'd imagine a majority of those types of situations would insist a marriage take place as quickly as possible (first sign of pregnancy). If it's going to happen, I can't see the people waiting until the child is born. They would either do everything to make sure situation was legit ASAP, or just deal with a bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 There would be a shotgun wedding before the baby is born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittensRuleBeetsDrool Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 There would be a shotgun wedding before things reached the baby is born.Or a spear-point wedding. In any event, the child would be a "seven-months child" *cough* and everyone would accept the fiction and the child as legitimate. "Premature" children and shotgun weddings were extremely common in days gone by - somewhere I read that 1/3 of Puritan (!) brides were pregnant at their wedding; the history book Albion's Seed notes that some 90% of brides in Appalachia were pregnant at the altar. Of course, these were all amongst the common people; aristocratic women were more supervised and guarded. But if, for instance, Hoster Tully had allowed Lysa to marry Petyr after she became pregnant, the child would most likely be a "legitimate" but "premature" child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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