Queen Elsa Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This has to be the most volatile question you can possibly ask on these forums. Let the hair fly.Worst case scenario we get a democracy.I vote for Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Do you still pine for the Jacobites?No, of course not. Although remember there was a ...WARMING PAN in that little scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Table8 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Abject nonsense.There was a thread just last week that caused quite a stir with the Targaryen fans. The main argument for saying the Targ claim is gone is that use of force to claim a throne is perfectly acceptable when you consider that Aegon set precedent when he became the King through force. How anyone can argue against that logical is nonsense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 There was a thread just last week that caused quite a stir with the Targaryen fans. The main argument for saying the Targ claim is gone is that use of force to claim a throne is perfectly acceptable when you consider that Aegon set precedent when he became the King through force. How anyone can argue against that logical is nonsense to me.Robert didn't conquer the kingdoms or claim the throne by conquest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Table8 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 There was a thread just last week that caused quite a stir with the Targaryen fans. Aegon set precedent when he became the King through force. Robert simply did the same. How anyone can argue against that logic is nonsense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I vote for Daenerys.I do too, I just don't like to share that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 No, of course not. Although remember there was a ...WARMING PAN in that little scenario.Malicious rumors that are not proven, similar to how Daeron II was supposedly Aemon's bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Table8 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Robert didn't conquer the kingdoms or claim the throne by conquest though.You replied before I could correct my run-on sentence. So conquest is fine, but rebellion is not? That's nitpicking IMO. The main point is that Aegon became king by killing and so did Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Robert didn't conquer the kingdoms or claim the throne by conquest though.Nope, his claim was his Targ blood. Else Ned would have taken the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstark Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 contestant 1: Jonevidence based and peer reviewedcontestant 2: DANYlarge font... possibly in bold hmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON BANK Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 JON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Malicious rumors that are not proven, similar to how Daeron II was supposedly Aemon's bastard.Lots of people believed it though, whereas no one doubts that Dany is Aerys' daughter. Anyway, the Glorious was over 300 years ago and the country with a great measure of unanimity agreed the crown should goes to James' daughter. Not the same situation for Dany at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Anyways, according to the ruling of Dany she abandoned her claim when she fled from her home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Anyways, according to the ruling of Dany she abandoned her claim when she fled from her home.Lets not do this. Dany obviously had no choice in the matter as she was a baby whereas the women did.Really really terrible analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirolo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Anyways, according to the ruling of Dany she abandoned her claim when she fled from her home.Quote? You got a quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Knowing that Tommen is a bastard and that the Targaryens are no longer recognized as the royal family, the answer is Stannis.Too many people answer this question as if it were, "Who do I want to rule Westeros?" And that's not what it's asking ...Lets not do this. Dany obviously had no choice in the matter as she was a baby whereas the women did.Really really terrible analogy.And yet I can't help but think that the scene was included precisely to make the point Minsc is proposing. It's obviously there for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Table8 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Nope, his claim was his Targ blood. Else Ned would have taken the throne.Can't really support this thought, but I always assumed that Arryn, Ned and Robert came to that decision simply to appease the general populace to make an ascension to the throne less "icky". Is there any proof in the books to say otherwise? I don't recall the specifics, but I seem to remember that the rules of succession have never been fully defined by GRRM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Lots of people believed it though, whereas no one doubts that Dany is Aerys' daughter.Anyway, the Glorious was over 300 years ago and the country with a great measure of unanimity agreed the crown should goes to James' daughter. Not the same situation for Dany at all.Precisely. Hardly anybody (in Westeros) wants Aerys's daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirolo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Lets not do this. Dany obviously had no choice in the matter as she was a baby whereas the women did.Really really terrible analogy.Most valuable assessment of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Quote? You got a quote?A rich woman came, whose husband and sons had died defending the city walls. During the sack she had fled to her brother in fear. When she returned, she found her house had been turned into a brothel. The whores had bedecked themselves in her jewels and clothes. She wanted her house back, and her jewels. "They can keep the clothes," she allowed. Dany granted her the jewels but ruled the house was lost when she abandoned it.Viserys and Dany abandoned their claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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