Lord Damian Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 The wall can impede them in that they will have to climb it to go over it but.... The wall is warded and I think it has to do with "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell. The Nights Watch was formed at the same time the Wall was created and Winterfell too. The Nights Watch, so long as there are memebers there and loyal to their vows, the wall cannot be passed by the others. When it comes to Winterfell, perhaps the others can bring Down the wall itself if there is no STark in Winterfell. This is speculating but since the others cannot enter Bloodravens cave, because it is WARDED somehow, then there has to be some connection of sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 The white walkers built the wall is the silliest theory ever. Why would they erect a barrier that only keeps them out of Westeros, but not men out of the north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 How does it keep them out of Westeros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 They and their wights can't pass it, but men can pass it and routinely do. Its a pretty silly defense then, if its erected by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Their wights can't pass it. Coldhands can't either, and it also affects warging magic and presumably other types. Doesn't mean the Others themselves couldn't pass it though, if they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Well we've never seen an other try, so i guess that's just up in the air, though others can't enter the cave that's similarly warded. Still, if their wights cant pass it but men freely can, why erect it at all? Its just a detriment for them. Silly theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 You can say the same about any walls. Why build them if they could be breached?Also, there were only wights at the cave, not Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 What would be the point of it? Making a wall that keeps your own undead minions from being able to cross it? Its ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Posts Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Perhaps the CotF, despite being largely wiped out by man, built the wall to keep the others out of the south?Like unconditional love regardless of how assholish humans are. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 What would be the point of it? Making a wall that keeps your own undead minions from being able to cross it? Its ridiculous.Not if they were retreating. Might have been a last measure. Also, who's to say they warded it? There's magic in the Wall but the wards to keep out wights could've very well been done by others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor knows Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 This makes me very curious towards Craster and the WW's "agreement". What was communicated? How much did Craster know? Maybe a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Their wights can't pass it. Coldhands can't either, and it also affects warging magic and presumably other types. Doesn't mean the Others themselves couldn't pass it though, if they wanted.Well...there's still Flowers and Othor. I'm pretty sure they were wights when the NW found them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 There'd be no point of erecting a barrier to keep your forces in, even if you were retreating. Now, if you are claiming they built the wall, then someone else warded it against them, thats at least less ridiculous, but there's no reason to believe its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Well...there's still Flowers and Othor.They weren't wights yet. Just dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Well...there's still Flowers and Othor.But they were dragged through. It seems their "connection" died (most likely because it was a hot day) and came back on later at the opposite side, when it became cold again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 They weren't wights yet. Just dead.They didn't have the smell and if I recall correctly the NW noticed that Flowers had marks of being killed by an axe and Othor carried one (or the other way around).But they were dragged through. It seems their "connection" died (most likely because it was a hot day) and came back on later at the opposite side, when it became cold again.Yeah that sounds like a good explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tyrion's Whore Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 They were stiffs. They didn't have the smell of death because they were on their way to being wights. Neither was up and moving yet, so they could be carried across the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 They were stiffs. They didn't have the smell of death because they were on their way to being wights. Neither was up and moving yet, so they could be carried across the wall.Just because they're wights doesn't mean they have to be standing up and killing everything in their path. Weren't the ones who attacked Bran supposedly "sleeping" too (sort of like sleeper agents)?They seem to possess at least bits of intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I told you there's like this whole bizzaro ice world up there with ice dragons, ice spiders, ice woodchucks, and ice avocados. There's even a frozen Myrish Swamp. Heck, the question is what can't they do with ice. They've been so busy building really um neat stuff with ice that they completely forgot about destroying warm stuff. But now, look out. Better get that Azor Ahai dude back in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 There'd be no point of erecting a barrier to keep your forces in, even if you were retreating. We have no idea what the Others were trying to accomplish the first time, but saying there's no point in erecting a barrier that would keep your forces in is besides the point if A: that's where they wanted to be (it's where they live, and where men can't), and B: it's an area larger than, or the size of, a place like Canada, or C: was necessary to give retreating forces time to escape while they stalled the onslaught of man.Also, if they built said barrier and warded it, who's to say they didn't make it so they have a means to cross back over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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