E-Ro Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Stannis baratheon fought at the black water were lightbringer served him no better then any other sword. He also fought at the battle if castle black with Mel at his side. Tywin also fights, at the green fork he leads a cavalry charge against the Northmen. These are lords of westeros, they are expected to fight, even if they lead from the rear getting your hands dirty is expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the 7 kingdoms Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You also left out the best commander in recent history Robert Baratheon.my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repbypop Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 We forgot Khal Drogo who was a unchallenged fighter and perhaps a good commander, nobody seems to have defeated his troops. And we gotta give props to Tyrion, he try to fight during the blackwater bay, for a dwarf he had courage, more than Joffrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEater53 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 A good commander is not always a good fighter himself, and a good fighter is not always a good commander himself. Notably good commanders are Stannis, Tywin and Kevan Lannister. However, it should be noted that Robb Stark was an excellent commander. Sure he fought on the front lines, but I can't recall a single time his prowess with a sword was discussed (aside from besting Joffrey in Winterfell maybe?) Tyrion is another one who has been in fights, but you wouldn't call him a warrior so much as a strategist. Tyrion is a strategist in everything in life, not just war.There are many great fighters who couldn't strategize their way out of a paper bag. They are different concepts. Just because you can pierce someone's chest with the business end of a war hammer doesn't mean you came up with a brilliant strategy... it just means you can swing a hammer really hard lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korgon The Reaver Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie didn't last long as a battle commander. He won a few scraps where he outnumbered his opponents,, then was beaten and taken prisoner pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repbypop Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie didn't last long as a battle commander. He won a few scraps where he outnumbered his opponents,, then was beaten and taken prisoner pretty quickly.Jamie was caught by surprise by Robb, that could've happened to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie was caught by surprise by Robb, that could've happened to anyone. Not anyone who can properly set a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Not leading from the rear didn't become completely moronic until guns were widespread in warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Those who excel at both:Bobby BGregorBarristanRandyl TarlyGarlan TyrellVictarion Lynn CorbrayBlackfyre and BittersteelFireball and Gwayne CorbrayOrys Baratheon..that's all I can think of. I want confirmation if Ned lead the van on the trident though. All we have is the van being comprised of Northerners and Cat saying that Ned took the most dangerous positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korgon The Reaver Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie was caught by surprise by Robb, that could've happened to anyone.Robb out commanded him. Jamie wasn't that good. His first ever command, and he get's caught in a fortnight, having been outwitted by a 15 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Paul-Arron00 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie was also leading a small contingent of soldiers thinking he was about to take on one of the escaped river lords when the whispering wood happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Areo Mace Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Robb out commanded him. Jamie wasn't that good. His first ever command, and he get's caught in a fortnight, having been outwitted by a 15 year old.I'd say outwitted by the Blackfish, since he was the one that advised Robb to attack Jaime there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Jamie was also leading a small contingent of soldiers thinking he was about to take on one of the escaped river lords when the whispering wood happened.Around 2000 heavily armored cavalry isnt a small contingent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Around 2000 heavily armored cavalry isnt a small contingentCompared to 20000 men it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Compared to 20000 men it is.What 20000? Jaime had a total of 15000 men. Robb had about 6000 men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbold Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 What about Jon? Seems competent enough, leading the siege of the Wall and all. Im reading the books and just read that part and seemed to do a good enough job with the means available to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dublin Warrior Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Robb Stark, no question.He's never lost a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Areo Mace Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Didn't GRRM state that he wished he had made Stannis more of a fighter in the novels, so that's one of the reasons he's being a totally BAMF during the Battle of the Blackwater episode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherbeef Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Didn't GRRM state that he wished he had made Stannis more of a fighter in the novels, so that's one of the reasons he's being a totally BAMF during the Battle of the Blackwater episode?from what i understand GRRM himself wrote the episode with Stannis commanding from the rear so they seem unrelated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanTheBold Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Loras lead from the front as well.and Renly world lead from the rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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