Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You read any chapter with Sweetrobin in it? Is it wrong for me to be rooting for the sweet sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aderyn the Sly Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I've always equated Robin with Dudley Dursley from Harry Potter. Of course you hate him, but the only reason he is the way he is, is because of his twat of a mother. He is a sickly boy who was always spoiled by his mother in everyway because he was the only boy that she didn't miscarry or was stillborn and he has a medical condition that she tries not to trigger into seisures by keeping him happy/calm. He knows he is the rightful Lord of the Eyrie, but all he was taught of Lordship he learned from his mother who wasn't a very good teacher or a fair Lady. Now, he no longer has a mother so he clings to Sansa because she's the only reliable female in his life. I think that he can eventually redeem himself as he grows up (after all in DoD he was only seven I think?) with Sansa to guide him. Although I do NOT want to see the two of them married (or him dead and her married to Harry the Heir). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I'm also hoping he will die soon. It will help move the plot along. He's annoying as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutraven Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Not disgusted, I just feel sorry for him. No one should have to be raised by Lysa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Lysa and Sweetrobin chapters always make me feel such conflicting things. On one hand, they are the two most annoying people ever to exist, but on the other, they've both been put in some really crappy positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of the Andals Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I don't feel disgusted but I find myself really hating him and wanting him to be killed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnow Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sweetrobin reminds me of my brother when he was babyish/young. He has Aspergers which made caring for him a huge pain in the butt when he was younger. He'd have dramatic hour long temper tantrums if the slightest thing went against his plans. In only took me a short period of time watching him to make me feel like I wanted throw myself out a window, and I did love him. He socially didn't know what was acceptable... at 6 years old, guests would be over and he would just randomly take off all his close and run around naked through the house. He'd always ask the most embarrassing questions in public... he would just go up to random strangers and start talking to them about embarrassing things... ones that make you wish you were dead. He wouldn't "shake" his whole body... but when he was excited or upset he does and still flaps his hands and arms uncontrollably.After years of patience, love, therapy, and medication- by 4th grade is a mostly functional person.Since I love my brother its hard to hate Sweet Robin... but if I was stuck in the Eyree with him and he had no medication I might have thrown myself off that mountain along time ago... (and brought Lysa with me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBlood Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Only when he breastfeeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Flies Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I was an elementary school teacher for a number of years, so any time I see a poorly adjusted child, I'm more inclined to feel disgusted at their parents than I am at them. Lysa over-mothered Robin to an extreme degree, and while he's not too old to be corrected in his behavior/expectations, it would require a much more concentrated effort than I think Sansa is capable of or Littlefinger is willing to give (Sansa being barely a child herself and LF being a psychopath). As a result, if allowed to come into his title he would be a poor lord and the Vale would suffer for it, and the blame falls almost entirely on his mother (Jon Arryn may have been busy as Hand, but he should have paid more attention to his son and heir). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfell Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Not disgusted, I just feel sorry for him. No one should have to be raised by Lysa.Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirwoodTreeHugger Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sweetrobin reminds me of my brother when he was babyish/young. He has Aspergers which made caring for him a huge pain in the butt when he was younger. He'd have dramatic hour long temper tantrums if the slightest thing went against his plans. In only took me a short period of time watching him to make me feel like I wanted throw myself out a window, and I did love him. He socially didn't know what was acceptable... at 6 years old, guests would be over and he would just randomly take off all his close and run around naked through the house. He'd always ask the most embarrassing questions in public... he would just go up to random strangers and start talking to them about embarrassing things... ones that make you wish you were dead. He wouldn't "shake" his whole body... but when he was excited or upset he does and still flaps his hands and arms uncontrollably.After years of patience, love, therapy, and medication- by 4th grade is a mostly functional person.Since I love my brother its hard to hate Sweet Robin... but if I was stuck in the Eyree with him and he had no medication I might have thrown myself off that mountain along time ago... (and brought Lysa with me). I had a similar experience growing up with my autistic bother. He used to hit me, throw tantrums, was an absurdly picky eater and would terrifyingly smash his head against the floor. With good parenting, special ed and child psychologists he grew into a fantastic adult. It's hard to feel too much disgust or dislike of Sweetrobin, as annoying as he is. Sadly, there is no help for kids like this in Westeros. He won't be able to grow up into a functional adult. He will killed by LF, die from a seizure or become a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sweetrobin reminds me of my brother when he was babyish/young. He has Aspergers which made caring for him a huge pain in the butt when he was younger. He'd have dramatic hour long temper tantrums if the slightest thing went against his plans. In only took me a short period of time watching him to make me feel like I wanted throw myself out a window, and I did love him. He socially didn't know what was acceptable... at 6 years old, guests would be over and he would just randomly take off all his close and run around naked through the house. He'd always ask the most embarrassing questions in public... he would just go up to random strangers and start talking to them about embarrassing things... ones that make you wish you were dead. He wouldn't "shake" his whole body... but when he was excited or upset he does and still flaps his hands and arms uncontrollably.After years of patience, love, therapy, and medication- by 4th grade is a mostly functional person.Since I love my brother its hard to hate Sweet Robin... but if I was stuck in the Eyree with him and he had no medication I might have thrown myself off that mountain along time ago... (and brought Lysa with me).I have a nephew who is the same. As to the OP, I'm not disgusted by Sweetrobin, I mostly feel bad for him. His parent's are dead and he's left alone in the world. His regent is a man who doesn't care about him and last we saw, all but announced plans to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBlood Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I had a similar experience growing up with my autistic bother. He used to hit me, throw tantrums, was an absurdly picky eater and would terrifyingly smash his head against the floor. With good parenting, special ed and child psychologists he grew into a fantastic adult. It's hard to feel too much disgust or dislike of Sweetrobin, as annoying as he is. Sadly, there is no help for kids like this in Westeros. He won't be able to grow up into a functional adult. He will killed by LF, die from a seizure or become a puppet.I dont it will be LF or a siezure to do him in, but his 'medicine'. Which sounds like it may have some mercury or other heavy metal in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerolunar Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Lysa and Sweetrobin chapters always make me feel such conflicting things. On one hand, they are the two most annoying people ever to exist, but on the other, they've both been put in some really crappy positions.I second this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Only when he breastfeedsBlech!I just feel bad for him.Though...I wasn't to see the little lord FLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Which sounds like it may have some mercury or other heavy metal in it.Why do you say that? Not doubting, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBlood Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Why do you say that? Not doubting, just curious.I don't have my books to find the quotes, but in Feast in the Alayne chapters, the description of what would happen if he had too much medicine sounded like heavy metal poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mike Secret Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sweetrobin seems like he has some kind of disorder that causes strained social relations. This, coupled with his mother's awful parenting, created the perfect storm for Lord Useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sweetrobin reminds me of my brother when he was babyish/young. He has Aspergers which made caring for him a huge pain in the butt when he was younger. He'd have dramatic hour long temper tantrums if the slightest thing went against his plans. In only took me a short period of time watching him to make me feel like I wanted throw myself out a window, and I did love him. He socially didn't know what was acceptable... at 6 years old, guests would be over and he would just randomly take off all his close and run around naked through the house. He'd always ask the most embarrassing questions in public... he would just go up to random strangers and start talking to them about embarrassing things... ones that make you wish you were dead. He wouldn't "shake" his whole body... but when he was excited or upset he does and still flaps his hands and arms uncontrollably.After years of patience, love, therapy, and medication- by 4th grade is a mostly functional person.Since I love my brother its hard to hate Sweet Robin... but if I was stuck in the Eyree with him and he had no medication I might have thrown myself off that mountain along time ago... (and brought Lysa with me). Thi sorta reminds me of something my lil bro did when he was little. Me my mom and him as well as a couple of cousins went to go see Harry Potter and the Sorcers Stone and he was like 3 or 4 at the time and my mom made him sit of her lap. Well bro knew how to make her let go, he just shouted at the top of his lungs in a crowded movie theater, " YOU ARE HURTING MY PENIS!" It was the funniest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirwood Druid Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Since I was a sickly child too I do feel sorry for him and can't really hate him. I was never that spoiled however and tried to fight my way out of my illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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