The Black Hawk Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I know his dad is a scumbag but shouldn't be a lot better if these guys had father son forgiveness moment. I mean Randayll is a major asshole but maybe he can be forgiven he aint as bad as Aerys or Tywin at parenting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Tywin and Aerys never soaked they're kids in blood... but I can see where this is coming from. Especially if he believes that Sam slayed poor Puddles/Shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I think if they ever meet, situation would be even worse given that Sam would be Maester acolyte, something Randyll despises above all else... And also, in order for Randyll to be forgiven, he has to ask forgiveness and that is something I don't see happening any time soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanerys Snow Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 After Daddy Tarly's conversation with Brienne, I doubt he has the capacity to have a heart to heart conversation with the son he threatened(with death) into abandoning his birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLover Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 It would be a son forgiving father moment. And while Randyll isn't as bad as Tywin as a father (sorry, but soaking Sam in a pool of blood is not as bad as having your son's wife gang raped AND forcing said son to participate), I don't think Randyll will ever want to lay eyes on Samwell again. There will be no "moment" between these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm hoping they have a moment too, only I hope it ends bad for Randyll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gar Weg Wun Sygerrik Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Only if they herald Sam as 'Slayer' at their meeting :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowisnobastard Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Only if Randyll offers him the family sword and he turns it down due to his greater magical abilities through the obsidian candles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Randyl Tarly fights the Others and is subsequently turned into a Wight. Sam meets him like that. In his father's deathly blue eyes he imagines he sees... respect.Just before he decapitates UnRandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Luke. Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'd like to see it, but knowing Randyll, at this point he's probably more disgusted with Sam then ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You are not the only one ser. Randyll could be forgiven if Sam kicked his ass like he did Dareon's, but if it doesn't happen, I would be okay with Sam getting everything off his chest and Randyll accepting him as his son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrogo Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I don't think Randyll deserves to be forgiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sam will confront his fatherHero's journey:Call to adventureRandyll has Sam join the NW, and Sam goes beyond the Wall.Supernatural aidColdhands comes to aid SamCrossing of the first thresholdSam comes to the Wall far from homeBelly of the whale Sam is lost beyond the Wall in a wight-infested areaRoad of trialsSam kills an OtherSam brings Gilly and her child with him to the Wall, never abandoning them, and killing wighted Small PaulSam gets himself, Aemon and Gilly on a ship to OldtownSam will later slay EuronAFfC Samwell V"The Citadel is not what it was," complained the blond. [Lazy Leo speaking to Sam] They will take anything these days. Dusky dogs and Dornishmen, pig boys, cripples, cretins and now a black-clad whale. And here I thought leviathans were gray.ADwD Davos IIIBehind the dais a kraken and a leviathan were locked in battle beneath the painted waves.Woman as goddess/temptressGilly and Sam consummate their relationship, and Sam knows his vows and tries to avoid Gilly laterAtonement with the FatherSam will confront his father Randyll, possibly akin to Luke confronting Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand old duke of stark Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I don't expect a 'moment' either. But if there were to be one, I'd like to one of Randyll seeing Sam accomplish something major and wanting a reconciliation. Sam, however, will be dismissive and ignore him. Sam is his own man now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castamere crimson lions Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sam has nothing to be ashamed of just the list of accomplishments jon used was plenty. He basically manipulated the nights watch. He went beyond the wall an killed an other. If someone such as Jon met with Randall before Sam met with him I'm sure the meeting would go down with Randall respecting Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sam has nothing to be ashamed of just the list of accomplishments jon used was plenty. He basically manipulated the nights watch. He went beyond the wall an killed an other. If someone such as Jon met with Randall before Sam met with him I'm sure the meeting would go down with Randall respecting SamThing is though, not even most of the NW believes Sam killed an Other. How less would Randall, who probably doesn't believe the Others are real to begin with and already dislikes and underestimates Sam, believe him? Lots.As for the rest - orchestrating a NW election, having sex with a wildling, ahm, getting into a fight with some dude in Bravos. That stuff might be easier to believe, but it's still all hearsay. Even Sam has a moment where he imagines going back to Horn Hill and trying to tell his dad about his accomplishments. "They call me 'Sam the Slayer' now." And even he doubts Randall would believe or respect him. I can't imagine Randy respecting him unless he came home wearing the teeth of his defeated foes, all ripped and totally badass, with his own retinue of shield-biting warrior types who worship the ground he walks on.Which isn't going to happen. He's gonna be all, "Hey look dad, I'm a wizard now!" at best. And that's going to improve his esteem in the eyes of Randy Tarly about the same way the Dursleys suddenly respected Harry Potter when he came home from Hogwarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Manderly Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 "Hello, Father."A black flash. The obsidian blade opened the front of Randyl Tarly's jerkin, bubbling with blood."Samwell." the lord croaked as he fell onto his buttocks. Sam brought a black boot down upon his fathers face. His nose popped like an olive bringing forth a gout of fresh blood."Who's the fuckwad now?" Sam spat, wiping the black blade clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Eww I dislike Randyll Tarly, sexist man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ronin Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I want Sam to kill lord Tarly, been rooting for that for awhile...though it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpinAintEasy Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'd like to see Sam put his father in his place but I feel that by the time something like that might happen Sam will indeed be his own man and won't need that validation from his father anymoreIMO the most likely forms for such a confrontation are:Sam humiliating Randyl with his wit in a war council about the othersSam knocking Randyl on his arse with as yet unlearned magicSam the Slayer as AAR? nawwwwwwwwwTarly sword is Heartsbane...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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