RedLantern Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Like most people it seems, I was immeadiatly sceptical about his identity, mainly because it seemed totally at odds with GRRM's writing to introduce such a game changing element and significant character at this late stage. But the Blackfyre theory was something I didn't consider until I read it on Boiled Leather. I didn't read any of the Dunk and Egg tales until after I'd read all the books, not sure if that would have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I never doubted he was real since I was thinking where did this guy come out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I didn't realize he was fake, I was a little disappointed that such a major piece of the puzzle would show up so late. But I didn't really start reading all the theory stuff until well after I finished the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 What's funny is that half (if not more) the characters are suspected to be secret Targs, but when an actual Targ shows up, everyone thinks he is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrish Swamp Thing Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yeah, to me something stunk about this Aegon ever since he first showed up. The Blackfyre connection didn't crystalize until reading here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadside Rose Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Many of the old timers of the forum have been expecting the appearance of a fake Aegon since ACOK, due to Dany's visions in The House of the Undying and a mail from GRRM refusing to confirm the young prince's death (but confirming Rhaella's).So I was convinced Aegon VI was a fake from the first minute.That's interesting to know that long time readers were expecting a fake Aegon to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenhay Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I thought he was fake, just because it seemed like too much of an ass pull to have him be real.I gotta say though, most of the other theories and stuff I didn't get on my first read. Lurking on this forum was kind of an eye opener. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I was skeptical about his identity from the beginning but didn't figure out the Blackfyre angle until reading about it on reddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan Marius Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 The whole premise seemed fishy to me, and I doubted his legitimacy. This forum taught me that he is Blackfyre (and Illyrio's son) though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Rat Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I thought he was fake, but I didn't think Blackfyre until I read it here. I thought he was just some random kid that had been trained up to be king because I thought of Perkin Warbeck as well. Plus I remembered from reading in feast that the Valaryian look wasn't so uncommon. Looking back after reading the Blackfrye theories, there are a ton of clues. Plus some historians speculate that Perkin Warbeck was actually one of Edward's illegitimate sons. So that parallel still works to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 i crossed my mind but i didnt think (and still dont) that it mattered at all..whether or not hes aegon or (f)aegon people will always be skeptical, no one will be able to "prove" it by any manner other than being more powerful and manipulative than the people on the other side, and if he is or if he isnt it will not effect his character at all or his ability to rule/get on the iron throne...his theme is perception moreso than reality "power is where people believe it to be"no offense to anyone but I am sick to death of these aegon (f)aegon he or she is or isnt a targ threads...none of it really matters!...the only interesting somewhat meaningful "secret identity" character is jon...otherwise, cmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I tought he was fake first, but I didn't know the Blackfyre theory before coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 It was Tyrions perspective that made me skeptical. Tyrion couldn't figure Illryios motives, thought the whole thing did not quite add up and ecspecially when he thought, " he might be Targaryean after all", when Aegon scattered the cyvasse peices after losing to him. If Tyrion has doubts so do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Young Black Dragon Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I knew it straight away, I'm not positive on way. I can't recall if his reveal or Brienne's chapter with the dragon sign came first, but that is what sold me on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzanadra Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I actually believed it... until the epilogue, the shady way Varys was talking about "Aegon" made me doubt his authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemul Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Many of the old timers of the forum have been expecting the appearance of a fake Aegon since ACOK, due to Dany's visions in The House of the Undying and a mail from GRRM refusing to confirm the young prince's death (but confirming Rhaella's).So I was convinced Aegon VI was a fake from the first minute.THIS.A friend of mine is a long time reader and he told me long ago about he was expecting an Aegon to pop up near the end of the series. When this was confirmed he had the most arrogant smile I have ever seen on a human face. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayura Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I didn't see any Blackfyre link at all, but I don't know why Quaithe's sentence about the "mummer's dragon/cloth dragon" was a bit disturbing to me and I was expecting to see another Targ show up. At first I thought Dany would have to be wary of Jon, and then when Aegon came up, I figured he was probably the one who might be the "cloth dragon", implying he is a nobody.But I wasn't sure and then I found the forums a LONG time after and I discovered the Blackfyre theory :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand old duke of stark Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 'Timothy Quentin Cray' wrote:I thought something may be amiss just because it would be an odd time to introduce a previously hidden 'hero' into the series at this point, especially one who could frustrate Dany's return to Westeros. But I hadn't absorbed anywhere near enough back story to make the Blackfyre link...==============================================================================It's one thing for a mystery writer to introduce the murderer from out of the blue 3/4 of the way through a book, but it's another to introduce a potential hero/nemesis 3/4 of the way through a 7 book series. Besides, this is not a murder mystery. Jo Rowling didn't wait to book 5 to even reveal that Voldemort existed.Also, due to some odd revelations in fAegon's behaviour, I decided he was a fake, whether he knew it or not. So Varys's revelation to Kevan really shook me. The Blackfyre angle completely escaped me. But on re-read I decided fAegon was the Varys & Illyrio candidate to control Westeros. I do think he's going to get killed off, presumably in the DoD 2.0, but at least it added a great deal of interest and tension to the story, not to mention the motive for Dany to get off her arse and invade Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 My first thought when I read his "reveal" passage was that he is not the real Aegon, he cannot be, that would just be cheap.I did not think further about who he really is, though, I was only hoping he is not indeed Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTowerOfJoy Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Because I didnt catch anything on my first readI didn't believe he was really Elia's son, because it seemed kind of cheap to introduce someone potentially so crucial to the story so late. The mummer's dragon has been on my mind since we heard that prophesy as well. With that said, I didn't connect all the dots until reading it here or elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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