I cant believe why daenerys is view like a god......by some readers

[DaarioKnowsBest]

I had heard of ASOIAF from friends for a while but never read it. I decided to read it when I heard HBO was doing a show on it. This was about a year or so before the show aired. I finished DWD near the end of HBO season 1.

Show did have a little to do with my Dany love but I already liked her, my big moment was when she got the unsullied

[TheMysteriousOne]

What is it with the perception that being a teen with a somewhat loose concept of reality automatically makes you a hero? To me Dany isn't a villain or a hero, she's just a nothing. Too boring.

This isn't really a great analysis of Dany either...

If you truly think that's all that Dany is, I suggest you look at this reread.

[TheMaxx]

This isn't really a great analysis of Dany either...

If you truly think that's all that Dany is, I suggest you look at this this reread.

That wasn't my entire view of Dany summarized in one line. In fact it wasn't even a sole reference to Dany. I was talking about a trend I noticed in fans of this series, and even some others.

[TheMysteriousOne]

That wasn't my entire view of Dany summarized in one line. In fact it wasn't even a sole reference to Dany. I was talking about a trend I noticed in fans of this series, and even some others.

Oh okay. My bad, then.

[Veltigar]

I really want to know what percentage of readers are the biggest Dany fans?

Are they long time readers?

Or are they teenagers who identify with her as a character?

I started reading ASOIAF in 2007 or 2008. When I was in my first year of high school. I didn’t know about the HBO series (or about ADWD, I picked up the series thinking that it was already completed. Boy, was I wrong).

I didn’t really have strong feelings about Dany at that time. I felt sorry for her, being stuck with pedo Drogo and all that, but she was nowhere near my top 5 favorite characters. She was somewhere in the middle, I liked her chapters but I didn’t love them like I loved Jons chapters or disliked them like I disliked Brans pre-ADWD chapters.

In aSoS she was making her way up the food chain (I always had a thing for revolutionaries and Dany is about the closest thing to that in ASOIAF) and I was looking forward to her storyline in Feast (Silly me). But she still was not very close to the top 5.

Then the HBO show came out and I loved the way they handled Dany’s storyline in the first season (season two however… ). I liked Emilia Clarke’s portrayal of the character (To this day I remain adamant that the train wreck that is Dany’s season two storyline is the fault of D&D and the other writers), but what really attracted me to that particular storylines was what they did with Viserys and Ser Jorah.

Viserys and Ser Jorah are two examples of characters vastly improved by the HBO show. Jorah in the books is sleazy but Ian Glenn gives him so much more depth. And don’t even get me started about Harry Lloyd’s Viserys. His death scene was the best thing ever. The look on his face just before they grabbed him to give him his crown to me is still the most emotional moment in the entire series (yes, for me it even beats Neds execution and the RW). They really made Viserys understandable.

Anyways, back on topic. After seeing the first season and rereading the books yet again I was really excited for Dany’s storyline in ADWD. My interest in the character peaked and I couldn’t wait until I could begin with reading her storyline.

And then I actually read her chapters in ADWD and I felt cheated. I really disliked her chapters on my first read through and my hate for Daario (and Penny in Tyrions storyline) knew no bounds.

I still did not enjoy her chapters on my first rereads (although I never skipped them), but what I did learn was that there were different parts in her adwd arc that I hated more than others (the 50 shades of Daario chapters).

Then I became more active on the forums (like many I was a long time lurker before creating my own account) and was really surprised about some of the arguments Dany haters used. Mainly because the arguments those Dany haters used where almost always total bullshit (e.g. “the Dany totz recked the economy y’all” arguments).

And so I soon found myself defending Dany against those ridiculous haters and their idiotic arguments, even though I did not consider myself a Dany fan at all.

On my next rereads I read Daenerys arc a lot more careful and put way more thought in my analysis of her chapters, just to be able to rebuke those stupid arguments and give some valid criticism on her character and storyline.

Some of the results of that train of thought can be found earlier up thread (e.g. the link at the bottom of my post) and I found out that Dany was a much more interesting character than I used to think (even though I still have a lot of problems with her storyline. Mainly with the setting and Daario the fabulous). That’s when I became a “fan” and she’s now top 5 or very close to it (I still prefer Jon, Stannis, Victarion and Jaime but she’s close behind those four).

I think the widespread Dany hatred on the forum just shows you how short of memory most readers are (even those dedicated enough to frequent this forum). I was always a bit lukewarm about Dany as a character in the books before ADWD, unlike a lot of posters who treated her like the greatest thing ever back then.

After ADWD, those same readers started to treat her like the anti-christ and claimed they had hated her all along. It’s the reverse of the widespread Stannis love that broke out on the forums after ADWD. Most of those Stannis lovers claim that they liked him all along and that they knew he was awesome all that time.

That is of course plain bullshit for almost all of them (I can believe that someone like E-Ro was a Stannis fan from the beginning but not most others), most just jumped on the bandwagon after ADWD and pretended to like him all along.

Don’t get me wrong, Stannis is an awesome character and he is now one of my favorites but before he came to the Wall I thought he was a total douche and I only fully started to appreciate him after reading ADWD. There is no shame in admitting that. Just like it is no shame in saying that you liked Dany before ADWD and not anymore after (provided that you use good arguments of course).

Anyways, I hope this answer was somewhat satisfactory.

[MasterJack]

To me she is a 3yo trying to play chess and is always winning because all her opponent keep on dying from heart attacks.

[Queen‍‍‍‍‍‍ Alysanne‍‍™]

I really want to know what percentage of readers are the biggest Dany fans?

Are they long time readers?

Or are they teenagers who identify with her as a character?

I started liking her cause people on the forums hate her :thumbsup:

[Rhymes with Weak]

I started liking her cause people on the forums hate her :thumbsup:

Are you also a member of the National Socialist party?

[Queen‍‍‍‍‍‍ Alysanne‍‍™]

Are you also a member of the National Socialist party?

:leaving:

[TheMysteriousOne]

I've been a Dany stan since the beginning of AGOT. I started reading ASOIAF in 2011, and I joined the forum in May 2012.

[JonathanTheBold]

so wanting to free people from slavery makes you naive and evil. Oh that's right slavey is impossible to stop and under no circumstances should people attempt to stop because only a crazy evil person would do that.Honestly not to bring race in to it I'd bet the people who Dany liberating slaver bay are all white an jut don't get it

[JonathanTheBold]

Are you also a member of the National Socialist party?

You must be American because only an American would assume that just because socialism is a 4 letter word here it must be everywhere

[Lady Fevre Dream]

You must be American because only an American would assume that just because socialism is a 4 letter word here it must be everywhere

Otherwise known in America as members of or with leanings to........The Democratic Party. Yup, that'd be the good U S of A. I would know, being one of the people here with leanings that would lead some to sling that oh so supposedly insulting 'socialist' tag on.

I don't understand some of the complaints here about the attempts to stop the slave trade. Ya'd think Dany was John Brown. Not only is her revolt much better organized, it's more successful, not just a small step, and Dany's actions have been more than a single flame on the top of a powder keg. I've always thought it strange but true, John Brown can be said to have been crazy. His revolt in Harper's Ferry Va/WV was unsuccessful, but it was also one of the great acts of history, without it........things might have been so different. Without it, the election of Abraham Lincoln might not have been so offensive to the South, without it.......the war might not have happened, Lincoln might not have been moved further and further on the path of emancipation, and the USA might not be where it is today, with a president with African origins. Ironic too, with the previous postings on politics and my own to realize the party of Lincoln has become the slingers of the 'socialist' mud at their own countrymen and others who might think differently than the Non Socialistic Leaning Party.

And, all of this is to also say............Dany is much more organized than John Brown, or should say.........she's on a bigger scale, more successful than John Brown, and must also be her own Lincoln. She's still looking for the way through, and the right emanicaption laws. I'll never understand how that is so terrible.

[Lady Fevre Dream]

OOPS, meant to edit above post, sorry

[Chaircat Meow]

You must be American because only an American would assume that just because socialism is a 4 letter word here it must be everywhere

No what he/she meant was you don't just start liking someone because everyone else hates them, as everyone hates Hitler. So, if you liked folk other people hated you'd like Hitler, but that would be bad. Was it an interesting comment, not really, but it was clear it meant. You know, because National Socialists were the Nazi party ...

[Lady Fevre Dream]

No what he/she meant was you don't just start liking someone because everyone else hates them, as everyone hates Hitler. So, if you liked folk other people hated you'd like Hitler, but that would be bad. Was it an interesting comment, not really, but it was clear it meant. You know, because National Socialists were the Nazi party ...

Ah, see I just thought about the word socialism, not the nationalist part. It is thrown around like a curse word here, socialism, socialist.

[JonathanTheBold]

No what he/she meant was you don't just start liking someone because everyone else hates them, as everyone hates Hitler. So, if you liked folk other people hated you'd like Hitler, but that would be bad. Was it an interesting comment, not really, but it was clear it meant. You know, because National Socialists were the Nazi party ...

and are u aware that other socialist partiest exsist that aren't nazis since most modern European countries have a socialist party

[Chaircat Meow]

and are u aware that other socialist partiest exsist that aren't nazis since most modern European countries have a socialist party

Yes I am but 'National Socialist' usually refers specifically to the NAZI party, in Germany and it was obvious it did there from the context.

[JonathanTheBold]

Yes I am but 'Nationalist Socialist' usually refers specifically to the NAZI party, in Germany and it was obvious it did there from the context.

Correct you did say National. Same to cuz that's a pretty good party name damn nazis ruining everything

[Chaircat Meow]

Correct you did say National. Same to cuz that's a pretty good party name damn nazis ruining everything

well sure, but my point was that was what Rhymes with Weak said too, but nvm.