Roddy the Ruin Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm a believer in the theory that Arthur and Elia were lovers (I don't see a problem with it as he did his duty) and if Arthur is alive (which I hope he is) then having him as a broken husk kept alive by his duty to Jon would be just the thing GRRM would write. The name Elia whispered being Arthur, had he heard the rumor, he would have known it was his and he would feel an insurmountable amount of guilt. He would likely misplace his rage unto Jon and have a huge amount of hatred of Jaime for not protecting her from Gregor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 can you expand this a bit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy the Ruin Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 can you expand this a bit ?Fire Eater had a theory awhile back on this. If Arthur is alive the only way I see it fitting with GRRM's writing style is if he wishes he wasn't. And the fact that Arthur is portrayed as the perfect knight and Elia the perfect princess. It all just seems to perfect for GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Arthur's dead, along with his two fellow Kingsguards and five of Ned's companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy the Ruin Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Arthur's dead, along with his two fellow Kingsguards and five of Ned's companions. your pessimism isn't wanted here :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarkHorse~ Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 If Rhaegar can have a second lover (probably wife) then why can't she? However, I feel this pairing was only made to justify Rhaegar's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hes as dead as the old world flag on your back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I would think Rhaegar fans would be dancing around highfiving because they really want a reason to absolve him of any blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy the Ruin Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hes as dead as the old world flag on your backit is not dead.....America is asleep....And the Old World giants beneath our feet shall awaken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Arthur can live but Rhaegar can't be Mance ?I think this is out of the blue, but am open to be corrected. Is there any text that could give this theory some evidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random girl from westeros Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Fire Eater had a theory awhile back on this. If Arthur is alive the only way I see it fitting with GRRM's writing style is if he wishes he wasn't. And the fact that Arthur is portrayed as the perfect knight and Elia the perfect princess. It all just seems to perfect for GRRM.This would be so funny. Do you imagine the faces of both Aegon and Jon Con if it turns out that Aegon is Arthur's bastard son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy the Ruin Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 I would think Rhaegar fans would be dancing around highfiving because they really want a reason to absolve him of any blame. He did nothing wrong in sleeping with Lyanna... But he did royally fuck up in running off with her without any notice whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He did nothing wrong in sleeping with Lyanna... But he did royally fuck up in running off with her without any notice whatsoever. That's up for debate mate. :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 That's up for debate mate. :cool4: Well at least he stayed with the girl he got pregnant, other than Brandon who fucked Barbrey and said cheerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Well at least he stayed with the girl he got pregnant, other than Brandon who fucked Barbrey and said cheerio Brandon can rot in the Seven Hells for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Brandon can rot in the Seven Hells for all I care. Who would I have to take as example to make you mad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Who would I have to take as example to make you mad ? Roose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I really wouldn't care. Barristan loved Ashara, Lewyn Martell had a paramour and Arys slept with Arianne. Why Arthur can't be in love with Elia and do anything about it? And Maybe Arthur, Elia, Lyanna and Rhaegar were swingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Arthur LIVES. http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/89012-howland-reed-ashara-dayne-meera-jojen/I wont listen to your pessimists opinions.The greatest knight to ever exist and we will never see him fight? I dont buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxWolfox Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm a believer in the theory that Arthur and Elia were lovers (I don't see a problem with it as he did his duty) and if Arthur is alive (which I hope he is) then having him as a broken husk kept alive by his duty to Jon would be just the thing GRRM would write. The name Elia whispered being Arthur, had he heard the rumor, he would have known it was his and he would feel an insurmountable amount of guilt. He would likely misplace his rage unto Jon and have a huge amount of hatred of Jaime for not protecting her from Gregor. What makes you think Arthur is alive, out of curiosity? Are you saying he's in the north or at the wall as a broken husk watching over Jon? When did Elia whisper a name? I must have missed some text on my re-reads to be so confused right now. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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