Good Guy Garlan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I just remembered I came up with this crackpot last year but I never got around to make a thread about it, so here goes Yeah, Gerion Lannister is alive and he's Tybero Istarion (aka Inkpots) from the Second Sons - He's plump and balding, so he seems to be the right age - He works with gold, as a good Lannister - There's this little exchange: “Tybero?” said Tyrion. “That sounds almost Lannister. Are you some long-lost cousin?” “Perhaps. I always pay my debts as well. It is expected of a paymaster. Sign.” - And this one, far more ambiguous, but could be seen under a different light with Gerion in mind: “In Westeros, the word of a Lannister is considered good as gold.” Inkpots shrugged. “This is not Westeros. On this side of the narrow sea, we put our promises on paper.” As each sheet was passed to him, he scattered fine sand across the signature to drink up excess ink, shook it off, and set the note aside. “Debts written on the wind tend to be … forgotten, shall we say?” “Not by us.” Tyrion signed another sheet So the irony would be if both were talking of themselves as Lannisters - There's also the Lannister quality of his name. It brings to mind how Barristan named himself "Arstan", like a relative of his, when he was incognito - There's also, of course, a bit of symbolism with the name: Geryon is a monster from Greek mythology who also appears in Dante's Divine Comedy as "The Monster of Fraud", which could imply he's not being honest about who he is - And last but not least, Inkpots assigns Tyrion to work for him, tending the company's books and all that. This could be another hint, as Gerion liked it when Tyrion memorized passages from books and acknowledged Tyrion's cleverness Of course, the big flaw of the theory is that Tyrion doesn't seem to recognize his uncle, but maybe he changed a lot during all this time or maybe Tyrion did recognize him but Martin is withholding it from his POV for now. And maybe Gerion is just waiting for the right time to reveal himself to Tyrion, or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastydream Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 “Tybero?” said Tyrion. “That sounds almost Lannister. Are you some long-lost cousin?” “Perhaps. I always pay my debts as well. It is expected of a paymaster. Sign.” This seals the deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardlyRock Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes yes yes. If I had a yes stamp I'd use it here. If this isn't already true, I pray GRRM hears it through the grapevine and makes it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ugh, I know. I just want Gery to show up, one way or another. He seems like the most decent Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 nay. INkpots is Daario, who is also a secret Targaryen, and Euron Crows Eye......and the Great Other.....who is also Benjen Stark AND Gerion Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 nay. INkpots is Daario, who is also a secret Targaryen, and Euron Crows Eye......and the Great Other.....who is also Benjen Stark AND Gerion Lannister. As long as he's Gerion too, I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yep, I like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Possible. Not totally convinced though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberynBlackfyre Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 As long as he's Gerion too, I'm happy haha I would be too. Gerion I think will end up being found (dead or alive). But I think it would be a very small and unimportant reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 Thousand Skeletons Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Not sure if it's true, but it is I think the first Gerion theory that I would consider plausible, and your text hints would be very GRRM style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I vote... yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardlyRock Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ugh, I know. I just want Gery to show up, one way or another. He seems like the most decent LannisterExactly. If Gerion were to emerge at the climax of the Battle for the Dawn, Brightroar in hand and golden mane flowing behind him... it may be too much to handle :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If he is, would he side with Tyrion? Would he go against his brothers and sisters?Also, nice catch with Geryon.These Lannisters are just taken straight from mythology. Tyrion being Horus and Bes, Cersei Circi, and Medea, and now Geryon Gerion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioSweetSauce Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Aye, I'm for it. The best Gerion theory I've read so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 If he is, would he side with Tyrion? Would he go against his brothers and sisters?If I were to go all tin foil hat on us, I'd say there's only one reason for Gerion to remain there in Essos all these years and join a sellsword company: because his own family (or maybe only Tywin) wanted him dead. Maybe Tywin thought he was an embarrasment for the family name, or maybe he was actually scared of Gerion stealing his thunder. I don't know, I'm just spit-balling here because the idea of Tyrion and Gerion teaming up to take the Rock is too awesome for words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ugh, I know. I just want Gery to show up, one way or another. He seems like the most decent Lannister He did leave his poor daughter alone though......and she is going to be married to a Frey so yea.A good Uncle but not a good father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lucious Left-Foot Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This makes me feel good. This makes me feel happy. I like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 In a story where Alleras is Sarella, Abel is a deviation of Bael, Connington was Griff and Arstan was actually Barristan, yes, I can believe Tybero Istarion is actually Gerion Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra Melis Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I like it, in particular if Tybero is using some kind of invisible ink that will disappear when Brown Ben Plumm will claim Casterly Rock :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Wind Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 nay. INkpots is Daario, who is also a secret Targaryen, and Euron Crows Eye......and the Great Other.....who is also Benjen Stark AND Gerion Lannister. It is known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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