wefollowthecomet Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The invasion of the others is an event which has been teased since the prologue of game of thrones.My question is how do you think it will affect each individual POV character?Our Major POV CharactersDaenerys Targaryen Tyrion Lannister Jon SnowBran StarkSansa StarkArya StarkTheon GreyjoyDavos SeaworthJaime LannisterSamwell TarlyCersei LannisterBrienne of Tarth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I think Others are able to endanger Westeros even without invading. Daenerys "gave birth" to dragons and in good and bad she will bring them to Westeros, she won't become the leader in the fight against Others.Tyrion will either fight or ally with Jon. Or both. He will lead Westerlands.Jon will be the main leader of the fight, no matter if he becomes the king or not.Bran Stark will advice his siblings what to do and will be heavily involved in magic stuff.Sansa may help to forge some alliances but 50/50 she will die before joining this story-line.Arya will join Jon, will be involved in some magical stuff, maybe will form some alliances in Braavos, could became one who gives Jon North or Riverlands. Nymeria and her pack will eat a lot of wights.Theon will die soon, Maybe his death will be useful as sacrifice.Davos will help Jon.Jaime if he lives long enough will join Jon, he may get involved in both Sansa's and Arya's story-lines before that. Sam will learn something important, he might advice Jon in political matters too in the future or be behind another political plot.Cersei will die before this becomes real issue for her.Brienne might join one of the Stark girls, is also rather likely she dies before Others became an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nights Kings Queen Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Arya will find out the faceless men have teamed up with the others to give the gift to everyone, and will tell Jon or someone else :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir popelor Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Daenerys Targaryen: Dragons and fire, no more saidTyrion Lannister: I don't see Tyrion figthing... he will probably advise all the battle decision, as Blackwater made clear he is a better strategist than fighter, even if he is deadliest with a crosbow. Leading the war? MaybeJon Snow: Even if everyone says he will lead the fight, need I to remember he broke the vows and is not a black brother anymore? He will still fight, riding a dragon eventually (I think the battle with the others will be at the melting Wall)Bran Stark: I can see him with the Others as well as with the heroes, he will stay in his cave for sure thoughtSansa Stark: Her plot is not going north, is going more political, she is going to unite the army of Westeros Arya Stark: Doing assassin's stuff or already deadTheon Greyjoy: DeadDavos Seaworth: Dead or with StannisJaime Lannister: DeadSamwell Tarly: He will bring lots of dragonglassCersei Lannister: DeadBrienne of Tarth: Most likely dead, I don't see her fighting that war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Sansa will be dead when the war comes.Sansa cut her connection with magic when lady died. After that she just became a pawn/player of the game. That war isn't a game. Sansa is on the wrong side, she's on the political side.She has no connection to magic, or the north. Lady dying saw to that. Hence why she'll be dead and have no part in that war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor of Winterfell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Jon Snow: Even if everyone says he will lead the fight, need I to remember he broke the vows and is not a black brother anymore? He will still fight, riding a dragon eventually (I think the battle with the others will be at the melting Wall) After the Others invade into the North there won't be a Night Watch to talk about. Nobody left to give a damn about oaths 'n' stuff.Maybe some survivors find a place in Jons armee of wildlings, the rest of Stannis armee, the GNC and Skagosi.I also think the wall won't melt but fall down in itself.Dany and her invasion armee joins in any case. Southern armees like the Vale or Westerland (Daven Lannister ?) might join as well.Actually any armee except the Freys and the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nights Kings Queen Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Sansa will be dead when the war comes.Sansa cut her connection with magic when lady died. After that she just became a pawn/player of the game. That war isn't a game. Sansa is on the wrong side, she's on the political side.She has no connection to magic, or the north. Lady dying saw to that. Hence why she'll be dead and have no part in that warThis makes me sad, but i know it's true. Sansa survives because her survival skills lie in knowing how to be a lady and knowing the basics of politics. Her survival skills become useless when the wights and the others come. Even now she's in over her head, Sansa couldn't and can't cope with the new story that's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor of Winterfell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Sansa will be dead when the war comes.Sansa cut her connection with magic when lady died. After that she just became a pawn/player of the game. That war isn't a game. Sansa is on the wrong side, she's on the political side.She has no connection to magic, or the north. Lady dying saw to that. Hence why she'll be dead and have no part in that warCertainly not. If another Stark dies it will be in the very end.And she is about to find out on what side she is.And it will be the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nights Kings Queen Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Certainly not. If another Stark dies it will be in the very end.And she is about to find out on what side she is.And it will be the right side.The side she's on is politics. She doesn't warg because she doesn't have a wolf. She can't sense her other siblings like her other siblings can when they warg into their wolves. She has no connection to the north. None. She's one of my favourites, but Sansa surviving is slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor of Winterfell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 This makes me sad, but i know it's true. Sansa survives because her survival skills lie in knowing how to be a lady and knowing the basics of politics.Her survival skills become useless when the wights and the others come.Even now she's in over her head, Sansa couldn't and can't cope with the new story that's coming.Be sure not everybody will fight the wights with a sword in his hand.I'm sure the actual fight scenes won't make a large part of the next book(s), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor of Winterfell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The side she's on is politics. She doesn't warg because she doesn't have a wolf. She can't sense her other siblings like her other siblings can when they warg into their wolves.She has no connection to the north. None. She's one of my favourites, but Sansa surviving is slim.Bran will sense her then. It would be simply boring if the entire cast with all storylines moves into the war with the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Certainly not. If another Stark dies it will be in the very end.And she is about to find out on what side she is.And it will be the right side.The side she's on is the tully side. And the tully's have no magical routes, and are 100% political.I know it's hard to accept, but Sansa's death was signed off when lady died. And this idea of plot armour, is weak. Because you expect the Starks to survive is even more of a reason to kill one. No character is safe. There is no reason to believe Sansa is safe. In fact quite the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Tyrion will probably tank because he has a shield and stoneform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor of Winterfell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The end will be bittersweet not abysmal. This means for me one or two Starks won't make it.Until then they have plot armour. Same goes for Dany and Tyrion.By the end of TWOW every Stark will be very powerful. Each in his / her own field and with some naturallimitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I dont see any clues in the text to foreshadow the details of the fight against the Others. I dont think George wrote those details yet. He should only have broad ideas and that includes the fact that Dany will not fight the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoman32 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Jon- will lead the defense against the Others regardless if he gets a dragon or not or if he embraces his Targaryen heritage or not.Dany- has her dragons and will burn stuffTyrion-Depends if he gets a dragon or not(I hope he doesn't)if he does then he burns crap if not he could be the bridge between Jon and Dany and be an overall strategist.Bran- I think Bran is one that will eventually end the long winter by doing something north of the wall(kind of liKe Frodo in LoTR)To give a football analogy(Since GRRM likes football), Jon is the QB that leads the game winning drive into FG position but Bran is the guy that makes the game winning FG to win the Superbowl Arya- Not sure, because I'm not sure how useful her abilities will be against the Others since she really isn't that good of a fighter and I doubt she'll stay long enough with the FM to become a great assassin, but she'll help Jon anyway she can.Sansa- High chance she could be dead before the war starts, it is also possible that if she gets to Jon fast enough that he could warn her and send her away to safe place(Essos maybe with Rickon if the situation is right). It is also possible she could use some of her political skill to help Jon get a larger army to fight the Others. but IDK how that would work.Theon- Most likely will be dead by the time the war starts, but if he is not then he can't really do anything to help.Davos- Will probably help Jon to the best of his best ability.Jaime- Not sure, he can't fight because of his hand, but his ability as a battle commander is growing, but if Jon finds out what he did to Bran then who knows what could happen. It is also possible that if he finds out Jon is the son of Rheagar he will do everything in his power to help him.Sam- Hopefully he learns something useful at the Citadel to fight the Others because he is doubtful that he will be there long enough to forge his chain. It is also possible that Sam and Marwyn could forge a bridge between Dany and Jon.Cersei- Will probably die before the war begins.Brienne- High chance of death before the war begins, but it is also possible she finds one of the Starks. If she finds Sansa and Jon warns them about the war it is possible they could find a safe place to go and she could serve as a body guard. Also if VS can kill an Other then she could be useful in the war with her fighting skill. Also she could return Oathkeeper to the Stark family as well and the sword could be used in the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I dont see any clues in the text to foreshadow the details of the fight against the Others. I dont think George wrote those details yet. He should only have broad ideas and that includes the fact that Dany will not fight the Others.Where did you get that idea? Dany has one of her dragon dreams, where she dreams of fighting the others. That's a BIG clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I think Arya will die in the fight against he others since I remember a line about how Arya will be frozen with Needle in her hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Where did you get that idea? Dany has one of her dragon dreams, where she dreams of fighting the others. That's a BIG clue Nope. Those were not the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobmartell Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Nope. Those were not the Others.DoD 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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