Annara Snow Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I've heard so many people pronounce Jeor as Jee-or, which doesn't make much sense to me. J and G can sound the same, and you wouldn't pronounce George Jee-or-j, right? I pronounce it just like George without the final -ge. That's just me though. But "George" is written like that because, if it was written "Gorge", it would be pronounced with a G as in "Gordon". There's no need to do that with "Jeor", if it were pronounced Jor, why not just write it like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateral Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Oh and Yronwood. No idea how to pronounce that. Ironwood? Ee-ronwood? Eronwood? I think that is meant to be Ironwood, like the metal, spelled with 'Y' only to look cooler. :D I hate it when people say A-ri-a. It's Ar-Ja, guys. I also don't get why people call Ned's wife Cat-linn. The spelling would indicate that it's pronounced like Kate Middleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think that is meant to be Ironwood, like the metal, spelled with 'Y' only to look cooler. :D I hate it when people say A-ri-a. It's Ar-Ja, guys. I also don't get why people call Ned's wife Cat-linn. The spelling would indicate that it's pronounced like Kate Middleton. But GRRM likes to use medieval or medieval looking spellings. And in the Middle Ages, before the Great Vowel Shift was finished, Catelyn would have probably not been pronounced Kaitlin, but closer to how it was spelled. For instance, we know that the English last name Catesby was pronounced in the 15th century as "Catsby" rather than "Caitsby" (because William Catesby, a counsellor of Richard III, was nicknamed "Cat", as in the animal, in a silly little contemporary poem by a political enemy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateral Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 But GRRM likes to use medieval or medieval looking spellings. And in the Middle Ages, before the Great Vowel Shift was finished, Catelyn would have probably not been pronounced Kaitlin, but closer to how it was spelled. For instance, we know that the English last name Catesby was pronounced in the 15th century as "Catsby" rather than "Caitsby" (because William Catesby, a counsellor of Richard III, was nicknamed "Cat", as in the animal, in a silly little contemporary poem by a political enemy). didn't know about Catesby, thanks for enlightening me. still, I think it's a kinda weird pronounciation (no english native, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie^^ Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Even though I know an Y in English is (mostly?) pronounced like AI or I, i still can't help but pronounce it completely different since English isn't my first language. So I always get a headache when pronouncing Lyanna and Tyrion xD - I've heard some say Lyanna as LEE-anna and some say it LIE-anna, and I just still say it differently :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp Beyond the Wall Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The pronunciation is clearly up to the reader. And it is best that way. I prefer "Bry-een", and "Puh-tire" and "Cat-a-Lin", precisely because that sounds "foreign" and "exotic",not like common names today. Others I know absolute cringe at those pronunciations. And that is perfectly fine too. I think the fact that Martin lets HBO say "Bree-anne", "Peter" and "Caitlyn" speaks more to "dumbing down" for TV audiences than it does to right or wrongness. IMO. I love the way that many British people call President Barack Obama, "Barrick O'Bamma" as if they are saying "Soldier dwelling of Alabama". It is no slightit's not an insult. It is just how they "think" the name. I agree with what so many others have said, the fact that we read, think and hear things so differently is enjoyable in and of itself. It is exactly what they mean when they say "variety is the spice of life." I pronounce Ah-ry-ah, "BAD-ASS", but that's just me. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Gendry - Jendry Ramsey - Ramsie Rickon - Rickun Catelyn - Caitlin Ygritte - my cousins call her Ingrid Aegon - thought it was Aygon instead of Eggon. Lysa - thought it was Lisa Loras - I pronounce it LorAss Margaery - Margarerie Arya - ArYA. Sansa - it's pronounced Sarnsa. I say Sanssa. Pronoucning the 's more. Missandei - Missanday I don't bother trying to name any character that Dany encounters. Gendry as GEHN-dree Finally gave in on CAT-lynn which is halfway between how it looks and GRRM's Cat-uh-lynn. RICK-on (rick on, rick off) ee-GRIT or ee-GREET, depending on the day. Bugs the heck out of me hearing it pronounced EE-gret, cause that's a bird AY-guhn LIE-sah LORE-uhss MAR-juh-ree AR-ya SAHN-suh Miss-SAHN-day Oh and Yronwood. No idea how to pronounce that. Ironwood? Ee-ronwood? Eronwood? EYE-urn-wood is how I say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dielsis Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 For me: Euron yoo' • ron Jeor Jeor is a tough one to write out my pronunciation... jure? jiure? I'm not sure. I pronounce the "e" but it is very brief. It's enough to not be "jor" for me... it's like 1.5 syllables. Aegon eyy' • gun (definite stress on the "ae" pronunciation) Gendry Rickon Catelyn Ygritte Lysa Loras Missandei - Missanday jenn' • dree rih' • kon cat' • len eh • greet' lie' • zuh lore • ess' me • sahn' • dee Oh and Yronwood. No idea how to pronounce that. Ironwood? Ee-ronwood? Eronwood? eh' • run • wood Someone mentioned "Yohn" as in Bronze Yohn Royce but I missed it in quoting, apparently. ee • yoan? yoan? It's another one of those 1.5 syllable things. In my head there's the slightest "e" sound beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspoi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I pronounce the Yronwoods simply as Ironwood. Sounds a lot better than "Yonwood"! I also pronounce Arya simply as it is written a r y (as in i, not j) a. Euron I Think as youron. Aerys I Think of as just aerys but I pronounce Aegon or Aemon as ay, not ae and I have tried to change my pronounciation of that name for the sake of countinuity. Margaery sounds a lot better with a hard g but I can use both quite easily. Ramsay is simply pronounced as Ram-say. Catelyn becomes Caitlyn. Yohn is Jon.Gendry becomes Jendry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashless Society Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Does anybody pronounce Trystane like they do in the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspoi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Casteless society@ How do they pronounce the name in the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashless Society Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Casteless society@ How do they pronounce the name in the show? Triss-Tayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 For some reason, I used to pronounce the "ae" in Targ names as "e" in "Beowulf" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU6Xp7Bui_k I don't know why, but probably because it just sounds better that way. It's only when I read The Hedge Knight that I realized Aegon was pronounced as "Eggon" and thought: "Well, of course that makes a lot more sense than the way I used to pronounce it", since "ae" comes from the letter ash and used to mean the sound as "a" in "cat", and "ae" is used in phonetic alphabet to denote that vowel - which is much closer to the "e" in "egg" than the "e" in "Beowulf". I knew that from learning phonetics and Old English at the university, so it's really odd that I still had the urge to read it differently. But even know, the way I originally pronounced them sounds much better, I have to force myself to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAF_Ali Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think that is meant to be Ironwood, like the metal, spelled with 'Y' only to look cooler. :D Really? I never knew this, I always literally pronounced it as it is spelt. I feel stupid now :blushing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Really? I never knew this, I always literally pronounced it as it is spelt. I feel stupid now :blushing: I didn't realise that until a couple years ago either. It's too late, it's embedded in my mind as Ron-wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAF_Ali Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I didn't realise that until a couple years ago either. It's too late, it's embedded in my mind as Ron-wood. Glad it's not just me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Triss-Tayne. I go back and forth between TRIHS-tuhn and TRIHS-stain. Of course a case could be made for Trihs-STAIN as GRRM says his father's name Doh-RAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I go back and forth between TRIHS-tuhn and TRIHS-stain. Of course a case could be made for Trihs-STAIN as GRRM says his father's name Doh-RAN. Trystane - I pronounce it as "Tristan". I assumed it's the same name, only spelled differently, as many of GRRM's names (Jeyne, Petyr, etc.). Brienne looks French and it seemed natural to me to pronounce it as Bri-YEHNE (with a long "e", not an "uh" sound). It would have never occurred to me to pronounce it as something that sounds like "Brian". Arianne - similar to Brienne, Ari-YEHNE. I always pronounced "Lyanna" as "Li-YANNA", "Nymeria" as "NI-meh-ria", "Lysa" as "Lisa" and I prefer to pronounce "Tysha" as "TI-sha", all with with ordinary "i" as in "Kit", not the diphtong (Nuy-mi-ria or Layanna). The only "y" I pronounce as "uy" is in "Tywin". (TUY-win, not Tuy-WIN, as Brendon from Unspoiled podcast pronounces it - I always found it odd and it almost wondered each time who's winning what now). ETA: and also "Tyrek", similar to Tywin - TUY-rek. Other names: Cersei - SUHR-si Margaery - MAR-gery, wth "g" as in Margaret. No one is ever going to make me pronounce it "Marjory" (shudder). Olenna - O-LENNA Rohanne - Ro-HEHNE (similar to Brienne and Arianne) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyslostloveball Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 For some reason, I used to pronounce the "ae" in Targ names as "e" in "Beowulf" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU6Xp7Bui_k I don't know why, but probably because it just sounds better that way. It's only when I read The Hedge Knight that I realized Aegon was pronounced as "Eggon" and thought: "Well, of course that makes a lot more sense than the way I used to pronounce it", since "ae" comes from the letter ash and used to mean the sound as "a" in "cat", and "ae" is used in phonetic alphabet to denote that vowel - which is much closer to the "e" in "egg" than the "e" in "Beowulf". I knew that from learning phonetics and Old English at the university, so it's really odd that I still had the urge to read it differently. But even know, the way I originally pronounced them sounds much better, I have to force myself to change it. Does that mean Rhaegar is Reggar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyslostloveball Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 For me: yoo' • ron Jeor is a tough one to write out my pronunciation... jure? jiure? I'm not sure. I pronounce the "e" but it is very brief. It's enough to not be "jor" for me... it's like 1.5 syllables. eyy' • gun (definite stress on the "ae" pronunciation) jenn' • dree rih' • kon cat' • len eh • greet' lie' • zuh lore • ess' me • sahn' • dee eh' • run • wood Someone mentioned "Yohn" as in Bronze Yohn Royce but I missed it in quoting, apparently. ee • yoan? yoan? It's another one of those 1.5 syllable things. In my head there's the slightest "e" sound beforehand. I go with Yon, Bronze Yon Royce rolls off the tongue nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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