Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The beast is huge. Massive, absolutely immense. More so than Tormund's member. I find it a little hard to believe that Balerion didn't have 1 day when he thought: hmm that man sure is nice but how would he taste? It seems.... A little odd. For such a miniscule human having control of such a behemoth of a creature. Not just Aegon, but his other masters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrhex Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Unlike Dany, Aegon did not need to re-invent the wheel when he rode Balerion. Dragon-riding was a living tradition, and involved, among other things, the use of proper saddles, whips, magic horns and plain sorcery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Unlike Dany, Aegon did not need to re-invent the wheel when he rode Balerion. Dragon-riding was a living tradition, and involved, among other things, the use of proper saddles, whips, magic horns and plain sorcery. That I know but still.... Hard to imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That is precisely the reason why there has to be a magical bond between the Targaryen dragonriders and their dragons. It is one thing that there are people in the real world training elephants, camels, and horses to ride - they aren't natural predators - but there is a reason why no one is riding tigers or lions in the real world. Dragons are infinitely more dangerous than any real world predators, and some of the historical dragons were so vastly huge that it is effectively insane to believe they could be trained or controlled without some sort of magical bond. I mean, Prince Aemond, then a ten-year-old boy, 'claimed' the huge Vhagar simply by jumping on her back. While there might be a chance for a skilled animal trainer to forge a bond with a dangerous animal like a dragon if he took care of it since its birth a young boy would neither have the experience nor the skill to continue where the last rider had left off. Thus we have to assume that the huge dragons didn't (accidentally) kill their riders or feasted on human flesh during the Targaryen reign because their riders somehow kept them in check. We know a little about that bond. Dragons seemed to feel the emotions of their riders and share them. They could sense that they were in need of help over great distances. And one also assumes that whips weren't the main instruments in directing them. I mean, it is one thing to direct a dragon's flying and another to tell him how or whom to attack. Prince Daemon clearly lured Vhagar into a trap over the Gods Eye - how could that work if Caraxes was 'sort of' in on the plan? How is it that riders could force their dragons to kill each other if they were once very close - as Vhagar and Caraxes were? The other thing is the fact that you could only ride one dragon at a time, not a second while the dragon was still alive. That means that a dragon feels the bond to its rider and is only open to bond anew when the previous bond is severed by death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 That is precisely the reason why there has to be a magical bond between the Targaryen dragonriders and their dragons. It is one thing that there are people in the real world training elephants, camels, and horses to ride - they aren't natural predators - but there is a reason why no one is riding tigers or lions in the real world. Dragons are infinitely more dangerous than any real world predators, and some of the historical dragons were so vastly huge that it is effectively insane to believe they could be trained or controlled without some sort of magical bond. I mean, Prince Aemond, then a ten-year-old boy, 'claimed' the huge Vhagar simply by jumping on her back. While there might be chance for a skilled animal trainer to forge a bond with dangerous animal like a dragon if he took care of it since it's birth a young boy would neither have the experience nor the skill to continue where the last rider had stopped. Thus we have to assume that the huge dragons didn't kill their riders or feasted on human flesh during the Targaryen reign because their riders somehow kept them in check Yep, magic seems like the only plausible explanation ::P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sharya Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 My dog has some pretty big teeth. It would never occur to her to even growl at me....even when I force her big butt into the tub for a bath.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 My dog has some pretty big teeth. It would never occur to her to even growl at me....even when I force her big butt into the tub for a bath.:) Yes, but a dog is not a dragon. Dragons are so much more dangerous and seem so much more irritable :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sharya Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Have you seen that artwork of Aegon I on his dragon?:eek: My first thought was, How'd he get up there! It has to be magic because wild animals can't ever truly be tamed...like my dog.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Blade Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I suppose there had to be some emotional bond between the rider and the dragon, why Dany hasn't been able to bond? who knows, we might discover it new book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 When I saw the thread title, I pictured Young Griff riding Balerion the kitten. What is wrong with me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Have you seen that artwork of Aegon I on his dragon?:eek: My first thought was, How'd he get up there! It has to be magic because wild animals can't ever truly be tamed...like my dog.;) The thing is, you are comparing a dragon to a dog. That's just a no-go, you can't do that, entirely different creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 I suppose there had to be some emotional bond between the rider and the dragon, why Dany hasn't been able to bond? who knows, we might discover it new book. Exactly, Dany has had them since birth so their emotional bond should be more than it is now, now I would say it is 'okay', but not 'good' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 When I saw the thread title, I pictured Young Griff riding Balerion the kitten. What is wrong with me?? I would bend the knee if Young Griff did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarokKing Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I agree with Lord Varys, I believe there is a magical bond between a dragon and its rider. A bond that is akin to skinchangers and their animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sharya Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The thing is, you are comparing a dragon to a dog. That's just a no-go, you can't do that, entirely different creatures.My first post compared a dragon to my dog as a joke. My second post compared a dragon to a wild animal, which I can do. But if you want a scientific, humorless explanation, I can't help your thread.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 My first post compared a dragon to my dog as a joke. My second post compared a dragon to a wild animal, which I can do. But you want a scientific humorless explanation, I can't help your thread.;) Well not even scientific. We know dragons are irritable from the books. They get mad... Easily :x But also they are more serpents than mammals. It would have been more understandable if they were more like mammals :P that is more possible to tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bold Wolf Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 First off, I laughed really hard at that quip about Tormund's member. I could be remembering wrong, but don't dragons get along better with people who have "dragon blood"? Even so, I guess magic is the real reason. Is it relatable to the Starks and their Direwolves? I don't think warging is the culprit since there isn't mention of them having dog or cat dreams before they got the wolves. Or maybe it is and I'm just full of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felguy Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 First off, I laughed really hard at that quip about Tormund's member. I could be remembering wrong, but don't dragons get along better with people who have "dragon blood"? Even so, I guess magic is the real reason. Is it relatable to the Starks and their Direwolves? I don't think warging is the culprit since there isn't mention of them having dog or cat dreams before they got the wolves. Or maybe it is and I'm just full of shit. Easier for the dragon blood people yes. I think that's correct. But magic has to aid them somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Balerion was a girl and Aegon was hot as fuck. Hotter than a dragon. She just obeyed. I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Balerion was a girl and Aegon was hot as fuck. Hotter than a dragon. She just obeyed. I would. New theory Valyrians controlled dragons through supernatural sexiness. No wonder they had to keep the bloodlines pure. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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