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[BOOK SPOILERS] Predictions for TV series: Season by Season


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#1 Thousand Islands

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

Season 4 ends with:

 

Bran: Entering the caves of the Children of the Forest

Arya: On a ship toward Bravoos

Sansa: In the Vale after the death of Lysa

Jon: Elected Commander of the Night's Watch, turns down Stannis's offer

Sam: With Sam at the Wall, a hero

Iron Islands: Balon dies, Kingsmoot called.

Asha: Fails to save Theon.  When she hears of Kingsmoot, she turns back

Theon: Succesfully reclaims Moat Cailin from the Ironborn, en route to Winterfell

Jaime: Depressedm, unloved by Cersei

Tywin: Has funeral

Cersei: Depressed, begins Regency, orders Tyrion's death, starts being paranoid

Dorne: Ellia Sand heads back to Dorne to avenge the Red Viper's death

Tyrion: Leaves Pentos to go with Young Griff

Daenerys: Decides to stay in Meereen, crucifies slavers

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Season  5 ends with:

 

Bran: Bran mastering the Weirdwoods

Arya: Helps Sam in Bravoos, halfway through training

Sansa: Hears of her upcoming marriage

Jon: Welcomes the Thenns, halfway through Command

Stannis: Leaves the Wall to reclaim Winterfell

Sam: Leaves Bravoos again for Oldtown

Iron Islands: Euron King, Shield islands attacked, Victarion sent to Daenerys

Asha: Returns to Deepwood Mott, escapes killing by Euron

Theon: Hears Bran's voice, renews hope of escape

Jaime: Fights with Cersei, sent to subdue Riverlands

Cersei: She is arrested

Dorne: Sands imprissoned, Arianne's revenge attempt, Doran reveals alliance with Aegon.  No Quentyn

Tyrion: Captured by Second Sons

Aegon: Lands on Stormland Coast

Daenerys: Dragon Pit scene

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Season  6 includes the following plotlines:

 

Bran: unknown

Arya: unknown

Sansa: unknown

Jon: Completes Command, tries to save sister, Pink Letter then Stabbed

Stannis: Battle for Winterfell

Sam: Arrives in Oldtown, works with ''Pate''

Iron Islands: Euron attacks the Reach

Theon: Escapes Winterfell, Meets Stannis

Jaime: Brought by Brienne to UnCat

King's Landing: Varys breaks the Tyrell-Lannister alliance

Cersei: Robert Strong's duel

Dorne: Arianne meets Aegon

Tyrion: Battle for Meereen

Aegon: Conquered Storm's End

Daenerys: Meets the Dorthraki

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Season 7: Rest of WoW, some DoS

Season 8: Rest of DoS.  End of series


Edited by Thousand Islands, 22 October 2013 - 10:22 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

Should be moved to TV forum with (Book Spoilers) in the title.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

Going too slow I think. I think season 5 will end to where we are all currently in terms of the books. However I believe that they will quicken the Sansa, Arya and Vic parts.
End of Season 5: Jon gets stabbed
Dany gets found by the Khal
Arya is heading to her first assignment
Sansa will be doing something wedding related or kill LF.
Aegon will be marching for Kl.
Euron will well be in the Reach by now.
Cerseis Trial
Tyrion will be into his service with the SS.
The battle of Winterfell has just happened.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:38 AM

Too slow. Hizar (sp?), Bronze Yohn, Lady Waynwood and Tycho Nestoris have all been cast. Even more, the set with the throne room of the Eyre has been dismantled, so it's possible they've finished shooting there - for good.

So, I'd go with:

Season 4 ends with:

 

Bran: Entering the caves of the Children of the Forest

Arya: On a ship toward Bravoos

Sansa: In the Vale after the death of Lysa

Either after or about the time of the Lords Declarant.

Jon: Elected Commander of the Night's Watch, turns down Stannis's offer

Sam: With Sam at the Wall, a hero

Iron Islands: Balon dies, Kingsmoot called.

If there is a Kingsmoot, it has to be earlier. I'm not sure if they'll go as far as attacking the Reach. Victarion probably heads for Mereen by the time Tyrion escapes (two people going for Dragonlady! She's coming to Westeros at last!)

Asha: Fails to save Theon.  When she hears of Kingsmoot, she turns back

Theon: Succesfully reclaims Moat Cailin from the Ironborn, en route to Winterfell

Jaime: Depressedm, unloved by Cersei

Tywin: Has funeral

Cersei: Depressed, begins Regency, orders Tyrion's death, starts being paranoid

Dorne: Ellia Sand heads back to Dorne to avenge the Red Viper's death

Tyrion: Leaves Pentos to go with Young Griff

Daenerys: Decides to stay in Meereen, crucifies slavers

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Season  5 ends with:

 

Bran: Bran mastering the Weirdwoods

Arya: Helps Sam in Bravoos, halfway through training

Going with Izembaro? Her first official hit?

Sansa: Hears of her upcoming marriage

Unkown TWOW material ( ^_^ )

Jon: Welcomes the Thenns, halfway through Command

"For the Watch"

Stannis: Leaves the Wall to reclaim Winterfell

Stranded outside Winterfell, or after the battle. Either the battle of Mereen or the battle of Winterfell happen at the end of the season

Sam: Leaves Bravoos again for Oldtown

Marwyn already left for Danny, meets Pate, befriends Salleras

Iron Islands: Euron King, Shield islands attacked, Victarion sent to Daenerys

TWOW material?

Asha: Returns to Deepwood Mott, escapes killing by Euron

Stannis captive

Theon: Hears Bran's voice, renews hope of escape

Already rescued Fake Arya, if any, sent to Stannis

Jaime: Fights with Cersei, sent to subdue Riverlands

Meets Brienne

Cersei: She is arrested

Post Walk of Shame. Got to go.


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Season  6 includes the following plotlines:

 

Bran: unknown

Arya: unknown

Sansa: unknown

Jon: Completes Command, tries to save sister, Pink Letter then Stabbed

Stannis: Battle for Winterfell

Sam: Arrives in Oldtown, works with ''Pate''

Iron Islands: Euron attacks the Reach

Theon: Escapes Winterfell, Meets Stannis

Jaime: Brought by Brienne to UnCat

King's Landing: Varys breaks the Tyrell-Lannister alliance

Cersei: Robert Strong's duel

Dorne: Arianne meets Aegon

Tyrion: Battle for Meereen

Aegon: Conquered Storm's End

Daenerys: Meets the Dorthraki

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Season 7: Rest of WoW, some DoS

Season 8: Rest of DoS.  End of series



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:48 PM

i tend to think of it in terms of major plot points....

 

JON
Season 4
Episode 1-Defending the Wall, Stannis saving the Wall
Episode 4-Lord Commander
Episode 6-Janos gets shortened, if they decide to put that in
Episode 8-Sends Sam off
Season 5
Episode 1-Mel's prophecy
Episode 3-Alys
Episode 4-Karstark family
Episode 10-Pink Letter, stabbing is the final cliffhanger (sound familiar)

SANSA
Season 4
Episode 2-PW
Episode 5-Escape
Episode 6-Arrives in the Vale
Episode 8-Arrives at the Eyrie
Episode 10-"only Cat"

BRAN
Season 4
Episode 1-Coldhands
Episode 4-Fights through the wights
Episode 7-Arrives at COTF
Episode 9-Bloodraven
Season 5
God only knows, GRRM managed to stretch it out, dont see how D&D can

UNCAT
Season 4
Episode 1-Hanging Merrett
Episode 10-Capturing Brienne

BRIENNE
Season 4
Episode 1-Jaime at KL
Episode 2-Taverns
Episode 5-Battle at the graveyard/cavern thing
Episode 8-Biter

TYRION
Season 4
Episode 2-PW
Episode 3-Visits in cell
Episode 4-Trial
Episode 6-Oberyn v Gregor
Episode 7-Crossbow/Escape
Episode 8-Illyrio
Episode 10-Aegon

 

DANY
SEASON 4
Episode 2-Capturing Mereen
Wow, she really has done nothing for two books, presuming the marriage to Hizdahr doesnt happen til late S5


 



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 01:55 PM

Season 4

Bran: By the looks of things Bloodraven is in at least two episodes, so meeting him wont be the season ending, unless they choose to have him  in Brans dreams or something. So either have that happen and him actually meeting Bloodraven in the flesh as the series ending or have him meet bloodraven mid season and having the series ending something like Bloodraven revealing who he is, or Bran doing something like going on to the weirnet for the first time. 

Arya: After spending the first part of the season trying to get to the Eyrie, and also perhaps introducing Arya as a warg too, have them return to the riverlands and get Needle back in episode 8 or 9 , with the hound getting wounded too. She refuses to give him mercy either in Episode 9 or 10, and Episode 10, the 'valar morghulis' moment in episode 10, so she's off to Braavos for Season 5. 

Sansa: Probably introduce the Lords Declarant storyline (or at least the background to it) a bit earlier when Lysa's still alive, should fill up the extra time in her storyline after arriving in the Vale and the LF-Lysa marriage around mid season. The ending though still has to be the 'only cat' moment.

Jon: Looks like Battle of the Wall is in episode 9, hopefully it will play out over several episodes rather than one, with that being the major climax. Still think the best way to do it would be to have the LC election before the end of the season, so its a new chapter in Jons storyline come season 5, even if that means either stannis making his offer in either the same episode as the battle(possible if it ends early in the episode), or, more likely the same episode as the election.

Sam: As in books he manipulates the election so that Jon wins (possibly with the help of Davos, if the show does what i think it will do and have him hang around Castle Black for a while rather than go straight off to white harbour

Iron Islands: Not really sure how the Yara vs Ramsay storyline will end, probably with Yara losing, anyway looks as though that might last the entire season given how they have yet to cast any Greyjoys for the kingsmoot. Yara's storyline might end with her receiving word that her father has died, setting up the kingsmoot for the season after. 

Theon: His storyline will probably be heavily involved with Yara's, but when its not i'd like to see some other stuff, perhaps along the lines of a hunt for bran and rickon, or him winning the northern lords to his cause. Anyway, the ending should be him telling theon he is taking him south to moat cailin to meet up with his father. 

Jaime: Looks like he'll send off Brienne a bit earlier than in the books, probably at some point after the PW (maybe after he see's fake arya, if he does see her) I think it would be best if Jaime somehow wasnt in command of the KG at the PW, perhaps he leaves the feast to go to see Brienne, because he is sick of his father and sister. For the rest of the season his story should focus on his duties in the KG, his relationships with his family, including tyrion and tommen as well as cersei and tywin, and ending with im breaking Tyrion out and telling him the truth about Tysha. 

Brienne: Having been sent out by Jaime earlier than in the books, i reckon they would probably end the season with her killing Rorge (presumably minus Hound helmet, given the Hound wouldnt have vacated it by that point in the show. Although, seeing as how i think its likely Podrick will turn up with her at some point this season (otherwise she has no one to talk to) , i wonder how they will get him out of KL before the end of Tyrions Trial (or alternatively her meeting up with him could be the season ending if Jaime lets Brienne go towards the end of the season but with two or three episodes to spare. However, i think first option is more likely given that Rorge is returning this season. Alternatively, I wouldnt mind to much if they changed this storyline up a bit from the books, as it was probably the least interesting out of all of them. 

Tyrion: As in the books, kills Tywin, Shae, delivers some line about Tywin shitting gold, and hops on a ship across the narrow sea. 

Daenerys: Takes Meereen about mid season, decides to stay there for a while, the rest of the season is mainly about the Jorah and Daario subplots coming to the forefront (although see a couple of plots for next season begin to surface), in episode 10 she sleeps with Daario for the first time and/or banishes Jorah. 

Roose& the Freys: Get occasional scenes with Roose and Walder, or Roose with Fat Walda, and stuff like that, throughout the season. They mainly concern stuff like Roose planning how to retake the north while he waits for his (f)arya to arrive, and also some stuff with the Freys, throughout the season there are reports of outlaws and 'lady stoneheart' doing bad stuff to the Freys and their soldiers. Ends with one of them being captured, Walder sends one of his sons to pay the ransom, setting up the final scene of the season as the epilogue of aSoS. By the end of the season, Roose has received (f) Arya, and is marching north. 

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Season  5

Note that I agree with D&D that there should be an extended season 5 that covers most of aDwD and aFfC in one season, should last roughly 12 episodes

 

Bran: Ending Unknown. Probably spend most of the season on elaborated aDwD stuff, mainly his training in the weirnet from Bloodraven (guest appearance from Sean Bean anyone?) But they would probably want to end the season with some further plot development from early tWoW, if there is anything. 

Arya: This season would be all aFfC/aDwD stuff. Start with her going into the house of black and white, meets Sam and kills Dareon about 3/4s or so through the season, and blinded after that, regains her sight couple of episodes later, and end with her killing the man with the coin.

Sansa: Dont know how it should end, first part though should begin though with LF taking measures to cover up how Lysa died, and then continue on to the Lords Declarant mid season, then we find out about LFs plan concerning Harold Hardyng (if that is really what will happen, which i'm not so sure it will be) and then maybe Sansa meets him at the end of the season, or that might be a bit early for season end, so maybe  2 or 3 episodes before the end of the season.

Jon: Most of the season about Jon being LC, along the lines of his aDwD stuff, trying to reconcile the wildlings and the NW, trying to deal with stannis and stay out of the Northern War, and trying to prepare the NW for winter whilst facing opposition from a lot of them. Anyway, the wildlings come through the gate episode 9, with Jon getting Julius Caesared in episode 11 (if he comes back that is) so the unsullied will get some hope, if not outright proof, that he will be okay (so all of them dont quit the show), and so to fuck with people's minds when they show the Battle of Ice the next week in the final episode (if stannis wins that is)

Stannis: Goes south around episode 3, after following Jons advice. Couple of episodes later he wins the support of the mountain clans and captures deepwood motte soon after. Sets out for Winterfell following episode, and from then till the last couple of episodes his situation deteriorates as his army gets caught in the blizzard. Stops in early Episode 11 at the place he currently is in the books, but Jon receives the pink letter at the end of the episode to say stannis had been defeated ( a lot of unsullied might buy it that the show would show it this way rather than pay for the actual battle) and then everything from theons first tWoW chapter onwards would be in the final Episode 12 the Battle of Ice.

Davos: Sent off to White Harbour in Episode 3 when stannis goes south, Sallahdor Saan abandons Stannis after he drops Davos off at White Harbour (getting rid of all the stuff about the sisters) Goes before Wyman Manderly mid season, that episode ends with us seeing a head that looks a lot like Davos' put up on a spike, but he turns up a couple of episodes later when Wyman Manderly tells him his plans, leaving the final third or quarter of the season for him to spend go finding Rickon (unsure if GRRM is actually going to include this in the books, but the show should)

Sam: Arrives at Oldtown, or if not an attack by the Ironborn on Oldtown (if there is one) 

Iron Islands: Kingsmoot done by mid to early late season, Victarion sent off earlier by Euron too go find Dany with the Iron Fleet, Fishes out Moqorro in the final episode of the season. 

Theon: Taking of Moat Cailin episode two or three, arrival at Winterfell in episode 6, escape with fake arya episode 10, see's Yara again in episode 11. Episode 12 Battle of Ice. 

Jaime: Sent off to the Riverlands episode 6 roughly, wraps up everything there by the end of the season (trains with his left hand in the meantime, possibly with Bronn), when Brienne comes running and tells him he needs to come and help her rescue Sansa from the Hound. 

Cersei: Basically does all the stuff she loves to do when she rules, piss off the tyrells, be paranoid about Tyrion, and just generally lead westeros into the toilet, episode 9 Margaery is imprisoned, and at the end of the same episode the High Septon imprisons her too. Walk of Shame Episode 11, and then she makes a brief appearance.

Dorne: Maybe introduce Arianne's affair with Arys Oakheart from the beginning of the season rather than just have it already happen when the season starts, it gives time to get to know the characters. By Ep3 or 4 she has convinced him to go with her plan, which is defeated ep7 or so. Arys dies, Arianne spends the next few episodes in the tower, in Ep10 she has her conversation with Doran when he reveals his intentions, and then in Ep12 having him receive the mountains head, before he sends off the Sand Snakes and Arianne. 

Tyrion: Smuggled into Illyrio's mansion episode 1. On board shy maid by episode 2. Episode 5 is the stone men and his discovery of who Aegon is. Episode 6 he is kidnapped by Jorah, ep8  there is the storm on the ship and it gets boarded by slavers the next episode, sold off in the next episode joins the second sons by Episode 12

Aegon: After getting seperated from Tyrion in episode 5, they meet with the Golden Company in Episode 7, in the Seven Kingdoms by Episode 10, if they include the bit about Griffins Roost then they should do it at the beginning of the following episode, if they don't then they might want to have them take Storms End by the end of the season rather than leaving it till the next

Daenerys: Picks up where the aDwD elements of the plot left off last season, proceeds along much the same lines, agrees to marry Hizdahr in episode 7, wedding in episode 9 (may need to put the whole storyline back a couple of episodes if they feel the need to have Tyrion perform there) With Dany reappearing Episode 12

Barristan: Ends with capture of Hizdahr and death of Quentyn. 

Kevan: Increased focus towards him as a character as opposed to the books, especially in late season, when we get to see him sort out the realm after Cersei's capture in Episode 9 rather than just hearing about it, that will also help increase unsullied reaction to when he dies in episode 12. 

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In season 6 they could have siege of Meereen in the opening episodes in order to avoid losing one out of that one and the Battle of Ice due to budget issues. Cersei's trial by combat and other stuff pushed back to then too.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 03:33 PM

Given d&d 's fondness for keeping the 9 th episode the most important shouldn't tywin crossbow incident be in the ninety episode and the battle at the wall when stands saves the day in the end . Just like they showed in black water.. Tis would mean that the last episode ends with Tyrian leaving kl and meeting illirio . And only cat moment with Sansa. Arya would leave for bravos, and bran reaches cotf cave. Sam also reaches oldtown and meets pate and alleged sand snake.

Edited by Aakash11bajaj, 22 October 2013 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:47 AM

Season 4

Tyrion: Killing of Shae and Tywin
Jon: Elected Lord Commander
Daenerys: Marries Hizdar
Arya: Sailing to Braavos
Sansa: Lysa's death
Bran: Meets Bloodraven
Sam: With Jon at the Wall
Theon: Tricks the Ironborn at Moat Cailin
Stannis: At the Wall
Davos: Gets sent by Stannis to White Harbour
Jaime: Cracks in his relationship with Cersei begin to appear
Cersei: Mourning Joffrey and annoyed at Jaime
Iron Islands: Aeron calls a kingsmoot

Season 5

Tyrion: Joins the Second Sons outside Meereen
Jon: Assassinated by Marsh and co.
Daenerys: Surrounded by the Khalasar
Arya: Wakes up blind
Sansa: [Winds of Winter material most likely]
Bran: [Winds of Winter material most likely]
Sam: Meets Pate at Oldtown
Theon: Meets Asha (Yara) at Stannis' camp
Stannis: Preparing for the battle of Winterfell
Davos: Sent by Wyman Manderly to find Rickon
Jaime: Burns Cersei's letter demanding help
Cersei: Walk of Shame
Iron Islands: Victarian sails for Meereen
Dorne: Doran's speech of vengeance
Aegon: Preparing to assault Storm's End
Barristan: Arrests Hizdar
Quentyn: Burnt to death

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:47 AM

END POINTS (with other key events mentioned where necessary):

 

Season 4:

Bran - meeting Bloodraven

Night's Watch - Stannis letting Wildlings south of the Wall if they swear allegiance to him. Possibly offering Jon a Lordship. Other key events: Battle at Castle Black - episode 4 or 5. Siege of the Wall - starts episode 7, Stannis arrives episode 9

Rickon - absent

Theon - still being tortured at the Dreadfort. Roose is on his way North.

Stannis - at the Wall.

Arya - either boarding the ship or already on the ship with Braavos in the distance. Fight at the Inn in episode 7 or 8.

BWB - Stoneheart reveal in the finale

YarAsha - declaring that there will be a Kingsmoot. Confrontation with the Boltons - episode 3 or 4. Her return to the Iron Islands - episode 6 or 7. Balon

The Vale - Lysa is pushed out of the moon door. Petyr and Lysa's wedding happens somewhere in the middle of the season.

Brienne - travelling with Pod

King's Landing - Tyrion boards a ship with Varys. Joffrey's wedding - episode 2 if the call sheet is real, episode 4 if not. Tyrion's trial - episode 5 or 6. Oberyn vs Gregor - episode 8

 

Season 5:

Bran - ? Likely invented material

Night's Watch - Stannis' departure/Janos' beheading. Jon elected in episode 3. Davos sent off in episode 3 or 4. Sam sent off in episode 5. Burning 'Mance' in episode 6. It seems likely that they will expand on Janos and co's scheming. We could also see some stuff with the Wildlings at Hardhome late in the season, maybe through Tormund

Rickon - Seen boarding a ship to an unknown location (later revealed to be Skagos). I think we will see him and Osha fleeing from one of the Umbers early in the season, then board a ship around mid-season, not to be seen again until Davos finds them.

Theon - arriving at Winterfell. Clearing the path for Roose happens early-mid season

Davos - The Skagos reveal in White Harbour in episode 9. Arriving in White Harbour and being arrested - episode 7.

Samwell - leaving Braavos

Arya - returning to the House of Black and White after killing the Watchman

YarAsha - fled to Deepwood Motte. Kingsmoot - episode 2.

The Iron Uncles - Euron sending Victarion to retrieve Daenerys. Battle of the Shield Islands - episode 6 or 7

The Vale - Descending from the Eyrie. meeting with the Lords Declarant - mid-season

Brienne - hanged by Catelyn in the finale. Brienne vs Rorge - episode 9

Jaime - lifting the siege at Riverrun

King's Landing - Cersei is in prison. Tommen's wedding/burning the tower of the hand - episode 3. Loras storms Dragonstone - episode 8. Cersei and Margaery arrested by the faith - episode 9

Dorne - "Justice. Vengeance. Fire and Blood." Doran sends off Quentyn - episode 1. The Queenmaker - episode 7.

Quentyn - Arriving in the siege camps of Meereen. Attacked by pirates in the stepstones - episode 4

Tyrion - Leaving Volantis on a boat with Jorah. Meeting Aegon and JonCon - episode 3. Aegon reveal and the Stone Men - episode 6. Kidnapped by Jorah - episode 8.

Aegon - Meeting the Golden Company, who agree to support his claim in the finale

Meereen - Daenerys agrees to marry Hizdahr. The dragons are chained - episode 4. Daenerys tells Hizdahr to stop the deaths - episode 5.

 

Season 6:

Bran - TWoW stuff. Warging into the weirwood and speaking to Theon in episode 2.

Night's Watch - Jon's assassination in the finale (the first half of the season focusing on treating with the Wildlings, and the second half on him meddling in the affairs of the realm/Karstarks)

Rickon - TWoW.

Theon - TWoW. Ramsay-'Arya' wedding in episode 2. Escape in episode 5 or 6, and arriving at Stannis' camp the episode after that. Stannis vs the Boltons in episode 9.

Davos - TWoW

Arya - TWoW. Presumably with Izembaro

Samwell - TWoW. Aemon dies - episode 2. Sam reaches Oldtown and meets Archmaester Marwyn - episode 4. Sam befriends Alleras and Pate - episode 5. Jaqen kills Pate - episode 5 (possibly as a cold open, definitely before Sam befriends Pate)

YarAsha - TWoW. Being captured by Stannis - episode 3.

Euron - TWoW (my theory being that he will take Oldtown early in TWoW/late S6, with Sam becoming his PoV).

Victarion - in Slaver's Bay nearing Meereen

The Vale - TWoW. Petyr reveals the Harry the heir plan - episode 1

Jaime - TWoW. Brienne showing up - episode 2

King's Landing - TWoW. Cersei's walk - episode 3. Varys' return - episode 4

Dorne - TWoW. Doran receives JonCon's letter - episode 4.

Quentyn - succumbed to his wounds. Meeting Daenerys - episode 2. Quentyn meets with Brown Ben/Tattered Prince - episode 8. Quentyn tries to tame the dragons - episode 8 or 9 (depending on how much time Stannis vs the Boltons takes up)

Tyrion - Signing with Brown Ben/Tattered Prince (it seems likely that they will be combined in the show). Storm/shipwreck - episode 2. Being sold into slavery - episode 4. Escaping slavery and fleeing to the Stormcrows/Windblown - episode 8

Aegon - TWoW (at Storm's End) - Landing in Westeros - episode 3. Taking Griffin's Roost - episode 4. Taking Storm's End - episode 7.

Barristan - freeing Gerris, then having a small council meeting to discuss the upcoming battle. Arresting Hizdahr - episode 8 or 9

Daenerys - TWoW (Daenerys takes control of the khalasar). She marries Hizdahr episode 3. The fighting pits - episode 5. Surrounded by the khalasar - episode 7. My theory is that her first few TWoW chapters (and last ADwD chapter) will happen chronologically at the same time as Barristan's ADwD chapters.

 

Season 7:

Battle of Meereen in episode 2.

Rest of TWoW

 

Season 8:

ADoS

 

Possible Season 9:

ADoS part 2 (or book 8 if GRRM needs it. I don't think he will need it, though)


Edited by Ser Tahu, 23 October 2013 - 03:51 AM.


#10 aFeastForDragons

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:11 AM

2 seasons of Jon watching ice melt and Stannis slowly making his way to the outskirts of Winterfell would drag!

 

Although the tension at the end could lead to an amazing final two episode.

"For the watch" part as the final scene of episode 9. Then in Episode 10 "Battle of Ice" the opening caption reads "7 days before the pink letter" detailing what happens.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:02 AM

2 seasons of Jon watching ice melt and Stannis slowly making his way to the outskirts of Winterfell would drag!

 

Although the tension at the end could lead to an amazing final two episode.

"For the watch" part as the final scene of episode 9. Then in Episode 10 "Battle of Ice" the opening caption reads "7 days before the pink letter" detailing what happens.

I don't think GoT would use the "7 days before" gimmick.

 

As for the first part, well, yes, kind of. But that's what's going to happen. In Season 4 Stannis will arrive to the Wall by the time of the battle of the Wall, which will probably be on the second half of the season. Season 5 has Jon as LC, negotiating with Stannis and Stannis finally leaving south, liberating Torhen's Square and either fighting for Winterfell or with the battle turning into a cliffhanger for the start of season 6



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Ser Tahu, you are always overly optimistic on the number of seasons and corresponding stopping points. I won't even touch the issue of pacing, but your season arc proposals universally depend on there being the ninth season. Take it away and your outlines simply don't work. You'd make two transitional books--AFfC/ADwD--two and a half seasons long, and would then stuff all the craziness of TWoW and ADoS, probably enormously long books, in less than two seasons.

 

If there are 8 seasons in the making, there is absolutely no chance in hell for the show to spend its time the way you propose.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:39 PM

They also hinge heavily on the show being able to decouple quite a number of the characters' plots from each other, when it seems like the sixth book is going to start tying them together again.  Many of the characters are going to have to get into their Book 6 plots by the start of season 6, yet other characters (including crucial stuff like Jon's assassination) are delayed until the very end of that season, or even after.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:53 PM

Ser Tahu, you are always overly optimistic on the number of seasons and corresponding stopping points. I won't even touch the issue of pacing, but your season arc proposals universally depend on there being the ninth season. Take it away and your outlines simply don't work. You'd make two transitional books--AFfC/ADwD--two and a half seasons long, and would then stuff all the craziness of TWoW and ADoS, probably enormously long books, in less than two seasons.

 

If there are 8 seasons in the making, there is absolutely no chance in hell for the show to spend its time the way you propose.

When did I ever say AFfC/ADwD should take up 2.5 seasons and TWoW/ADoS 1.5? I have AFfC/ADwD taking up season 5 and half of 6. That's 1.5 seasons. I then have TWoW and ADos taking up half of season 6, season 7 and season 8. That's 2.5 seasons, with the possibility of season 9 making it 3.5. They could also just have an extended 8th/final season, which would achieve a similar effect.

 

The way I see it:

ASoS - 2 seasons (aside from Bran and Brienne in S4)

AFfC - 0.5 seasons

ADwD - 1 season

TWoW - 1.5 seasons

ADoS - 1 season. Could be an extended season or 2 seasons. However, I think it likely that it will be a very fast paced book, So why not a fast paced final season?

 

Also, we know NOTHING about TWoW and ADoS except that they will be as long as ADwD, it is only fan speculation that they will be as eventful as ASoS. The books could easily be just as (un)eventful and long as ADwD, but I don't see anyone jumping forward and saying that it should be 1.5-2 seasons by itself. 

 

They also hinge heavily on the show being able to decouple quite a number of the characters' plots from each other, when it seems like the sixth book is going to start tying them together again.  Many of the characters are going to have to get into their Book 6 plots by the start of season 6, yet other characters (including crucial stuff like Jon's assassination) are delayed until the very end of that season, or even after.

It seems very likely that a lot of the early TWoW material will take place chronologically at the same time as the last section of ADwD. If you keep in mind that AFfC ends half way through ADwD, all of these storylines end around halfway through ADwD:

Davos

Sansa

Samwell

Bran

Dorne.

 

Either those storylines will have a huge gap between their AFfC/ADwD and TWoW material, a gap which would either require them to invent material on the show or just have characters absent for a long period of time, or the start of TWoW must happen at the same time as the last section of ADwD. In fact, multiple Sansa (and Aeron) chapters were moved from ADwD to TWoW, so those chapters, unless completely rewritten, MUST take place at the same time as the second half of ADwD. So overall I don't see that being too much of a problem.


Edited by Ser Tahu, 23 October 2013 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:46 AM

Davos

Sansa

Samwell

Bran

Dorne.

 

 

Iron Island as well.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:41 AM

In fact, multiple Sansa (and Aeron) chapters were moved from ADwD to TWoW

It was one chapter apiece, not multiple chapters per character.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:58 PM

It was one chapter apiece, not multiple chapters per character.

Really? I knew it was just one Aeron, but I thought it was 2 (or 3) Sansa chapters. My point still stands, though: Those chapters would chronologically take place at the same time as the second half of ADwD.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:01 PM

I think enough of TWOW will have been written by the time they're filming season 5 to avoid making Jon's stabbing a cliffhanger.

 

 

As far as Tyrion goes, I think he'll end season 5 realizing that Jorah is taking him to Dany. Then S06E09 will be the battle.

 

 

But I'm optimistic that GRRM will have TWOW out in Autumn 2014 or Spring 2015.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:06 PM

I'm pretty sure Jon getting knifed will be the closing scene of season 5.  



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:37 AM

I'm pretty sure Jon getting knifed will be the closing scene of season 5.  

And I'm pretty sure that it will be the closing scene of season 6 :P.