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  1. Sad that the Troy movie really makes him more of a flat character than he was in the original myth though. In the Iliad, Agamemnon was portrayed as a guy who doesn't listen to Archilles' shit all and an implied rapist. But he really isn't different from all the other guys who pillage and rape. He's really caring towards his brother Menelaus and despite that he sacrificed his daughter Iphigenia, he was implied to be a good father (to Electra at least) while like you said, his wife is a bitch to their children. As for the Greek gods, i want to throw Ares and Athena in the greyshade as well. Ares was often portrayed as a coward god who is bloodthirsty and all. But keep in mind, all the myths we know were written down by the Athenians, who is pretty bias towards other Greek city states or kingdoms.As Athena is their patron goddess, inevitable they are going to be bias against other gods, particularly Ares who was the patron god of Sparta (i think you knew that Athenians and Spartans were rivals) Ares was probably seen as a positive deity in Sparta and some other cities, but unfortunately there weren't records from them about them, only left with the Athenians that can be taken with grain of salt to make them look bad based on their observations. But i would like to point there is some positive aspect of Ares as well. The myth never, ever, mention about Ares raping or seducing women (rape and seduce can means the same thing back then) and in fact, he's pretty supportive towards them. Like the case where he killed his daughter's rapist, he tried to save his mother from the giants, and he's the father of the Amazons. It makes sense if you think about how Spartans treated their women. Athena is the opposite of this. She doesn't always have a positive interaction with women in the myths despite the popular belief that she suppose to be a feminist goddess, but really she's the opposite of this (which makes sense if you knew about Athenian women were treated). Particularly the Medusa case is famous. But of course, she can be supportive towards men like Odysseus.
  2. We have no conclusive evidence to proof whether Queen Elizabeth was technically a virgin or not. It all remain speculation to historians as whether she lose her virginity to Robert Dudley, Thomas Seymour, or other dudes.
  3. I think what Asoiaf/GOT stood out the most is due to the political story it have and plus... well, sex and violence. I agreed that fantasy stories in medieval setting with grey morality isn't all that new. Most fantasy series would have at least some originalities outside of the whole "boy become hero and save the day and become royal" thing. And even some would have minimal of graphic content like sex and violence, but it only played subtly. Series like Wheel of Time and Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn are this. However with Asoiaf/GOT, it think outside the box that contain the typical fantasy tropes. It contain politics which not a lot of fantasy series usually focus, especially with royalties and nobles. I would like to point out that the deconstructions and twists of certain tropes and archetypes are the highlights of the series. It put the realistic circumstances that parallel to actual human conditions and values. For example, Robert fought against the Targs. He was considered to be a good general, and thus he was crowned as king. From the archetype perspective, he can be seen as the hero type. However, GRMM deconstructed this with Robert being unsatisfied with his kingship despite his achievements and spend most of time drinking and whoring instead. And of course I can explain the brutal violence in the series that GRMM did not sugarcoat it, but like he explained himself, he wanted to present the horrific of war instead of telling an epic about men fighting for glory. Regarding Greek Mythology and its grey morality, i think the blame mainly caters from mainstream movies and films. Most films and tv shows that based off Greek Mythology told it in a typical fantasy story that the myths wouldn't tell it that way. I mean look at The Legend of Hercules, it went sooo well right? But I think another problem is that we retell Greek mythology with our modern interpretations. We put Greek Gods and heroes to certain group that classified them to modern ideas, taking them out of context that the Ancient Greek people wouldn't thought of them as. Sure, we know the Greek mythological characters are grey, but it's a different "grey" from Ancient Greek standards. Like, when you think of Zeus, you think of him as a philanderer who constantly cheats on Hera. But to the Ancient Greeks, he wasn't seen as this. He was often seen as a majestic god who is in need to maintain law and make actions that was necessary, and he wasn't particularly thought of sharing humanistic attributes (and his affairs wasn't considered "adultery" either cuz men were expected to had affairs back then). We can imagine the Greek myths and gods based off Percy Jackson and Xena Warriors for all we like. However, when you start reading the classics texts like the The Iliad and Odyssey, it's a whole different story.
  4. Have to disagree here. Quentyn is merely a plot device for Dorne and Dany's storyline to fold and Arianne is more connected to fAegon's plot which like Good Garlan explained, the plot is convoluted to be in the show. I agreed that they would make Dorne more interesting, but in terms of how they are too relate to fAegon's storyline, it's best that they do not appear on the show. Heck if anything, the show might as well mess up Arianne by making her the "bad pussy" considering her nature.
  5. Despite whether the viewers like it or not, D&D stressed many times that the show will end similarly like the book. It won't be the same exactly given the omit of many characters and storylines from the book like fAegon, but the tone and theme will be the same. And if anyone gonna argue D&D might change their plan for the ending, why would they do that after so many years of collaborating with GRMM about the future for GoT now that the show is successful. As for huge spoilers on the show, some things may or may not be the same in the book. Like the Hold the Door reveal and Bran becoming the Three Eyed Crow sounds believable. But for Shireen's death, we really don't how that's gonna play out since in the book, many fans argue that Shireen resided at the Wall and Stannis is far distance from the Wall, so Stannis wouldn't directly sacrifice Shireen. Also, some plot may not be a thing in the book due to either trying to explain for the show's storylines or merge plots and characters from the book. In particular is the WW's origin, noticed that D&D didn't say that this will be the same in the book unlike Shireen's and Hodor's death? They probably invented this in order to give show watchers the explanation of where the WW come from, something that the book may not do the same thing as GoT have less magic compared to its book counterpart. And with Cersei becoming queen of Westeros, I doubt the book will go that way due to the complexity with Cersei's situation in the book. However, given that the show removed fAegon, I believe they are trying to merge fAegon's with Cersei's storyline. As again, the show's path will be different from the book, but the destination will be the same. Some spoilers will be a thing in Winds and Spring.
  6. GRMM said that Winds and Springs will be approx. be around 1500 pages. Of course not exactly, but that is what he expecting how long his books will be.
  7. Not to mention, it's expensive. With Winds gonna be roughly 1500 pages long, could you imagine what the price will be?
  8. I think an original spin-off would be much better instead of adapting a source material that is either the audience already know or it's insufficient to put on television (coughD&Ecough). Kinda like doing what the Star Wars franchise has been doing.
  9. I figure the crew have to wait later in order to film winter in season 7, especially considering the wright expedition involvement.
  10. So having dark skin automatically makes you Middle Eastern huh?
  11. Killing all those scums unintentionally resulted chaos across Essos with the economy however.
  12. I can agreed with some of the other people said about Dany. Her decisions and actions regarding Mereen shows she's not a good ruler. A good conquer, but a bad ruler. As for the future, i think she won't become a good ruler as with the prophecies of treasons that is making her more paranoid and ready to accept her identity as a Targaryen, she will only spread more chaos than harmony.
  13. Theon is absolutely one of my favorite characters and probably top the best. I love that his arc is very different from most of the other characters. Unlike the typical likable heroes that often panders to the demographic's best interest such as Jon, Arya, and Dany, Theon is an anti-hero to the core. Theon was an absolute dick as he doesn't possess any likable traits. He's arrogant, treats women like crap, betrayed the Starks, and kills the two boys. But GRMM did a great job at exploring Theon's mindset in Clash. He is a asshole who's suffering an identity crisis. He made actions based on his struggle to fit in which side he truly thinks he belongs. It then cost him to become friendless and lonely with all the decisions he made. And by Dance, Theon has become a tragic character. Regardless of which side Theon turned to, he will earn no love from his other family and at the end, Theon lost both his identity and been demoted to a insignificant person known as Reek who isn't warrant to be remember. Although Theon may be an asshole, but GRMM shows that he's lesser in comparison to the likes of Ramsay and Euron. Theon does have some sense of morality despite in a persona as Reek. He was willing to help Jeyne escape even though he knew she's a woman and a commoner. He also told Jeyne not to reveal herself for her safety, showing that cares for her. Theon redeemed himself and managed to break his identity as Reek. He's neither a Stark nor a Greyjoy - just Theon Greyjoy. Although Theon is my favorite character, i can agreed with some of the people that Theon still hasn't atone entirely for what he did. He killed the two boys and Theon didn't acknowledge that hideous act even after he became Reek. He only stated that they are just "boys" and nothing relevant. They say that going through a trauma doesn't automatically makes you sympathetic or a better person and this would be the case. But Theon atoned with other areas. Theon may be asshole, but he i like him cause he's a flaw character. Being the most heavily flaw POV character is what distinguish him from other main characters and it's only about a boy suffering from an identity crisis.
  14. Like many people reasoned, no. And i felt this will also apply for the book as well. Chances of siding with Euron is slim.
  15. I think Joffrey would be closer to the likes of Caligula, just minus the sexual appetite (though whether Joffrey is into sexual activities is unknown).