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  1. VERY subjective, but I think the problem isn't that they can't be in love or that the script isn't there, but that the actors have zero chemistry together. I'd go further and say that neither Harrington nor Clarke is good enough to create excitement when the chemistry isn't there. Compare their scenes together with Olenna and Jaime at the beginning of the season, or Cersei and Jaime at the end. These people are very, very good at what they do, and would probably generate a memorable scene reading the phone book to one another. Harrington and Clarke, not so much.
  2. Took me eleven hours to respond, sorry. I have nothing against Jaime as the father of Cersei's baby...if Cersei is pregnant at all. He says he doesn't believe her at the end, and possibly he's talking about that baby. I don't know. I have nothing against Jaime as valonqar, especially on the show. It was very difficult for Jaime to separate from Cersei, as you say. His having to kill this person he once loved, might still love, would be moving, a tragic decision for him. Novel Cersei, on the other hand, is a cartoon villain, and Jaime's break with her was relatively easy. His acting as valonqar in the novels can't carry that kind of emotional weight.
  3. In this case, I felt that the script contradicted itself, as it also underlined that Cersei was weak, isolated, and unreliable, a horrible ally and a horrible person keep on the throne while the country is facing a zombie apocalypse. Giving over the entire season to winning over Cersei, specifically, was an especially weird decision, given that the script also underlined how powerful Dany was, hence how unnecessary this kind of thing was. I mean...that whole "travel North, risk your life, capture zombie, return south, risk dragons, waste months," was all for Cersei. WHY??? What about the Citadel? What about everyone else? I love this show, and I don't "rant rave" against it, usually. This season, however, didn't work for me.
  4. Why would a very, very powerful invader who offed a good portion of her enemy's army in minutes and must unite Westeros against a zombie apocalypse negotiate a ceasefire with an enemy who is 1. notoriously unreliable and cruel, possibly insane 2. very weak 3. unable to bring alliances with her What am I missing? Dany and Jon need to spread the news that the apocalypse is nigh to all of Westeros, yet they spend the entire season trying to win over this one evil, backstabbing person, who would go down in five minutes if Dany took the time to fly to King's Landing. I think Dany could leave in the afternoon and be back for dinner, and most of that would be flight time. ...and I say this as someone who can't stand Dany, and adores Cersei. May Cersei rule. The character is entertaining and complicated, and Headey is excellent.
  5. Indeed. There is no evidence that she's going mad. There is also no reason for her to hold back from using dragons against Cersei, other than as a result of the show's decision to use how idealized she's become to fill up an entire season. Once the show can find a very good reason for her to go after KL and Cersei--Walkers have it, or Cersei is on the verge of doing something that empowers the Walkers--then she can attack. And she will not go mad.
  6. Plenty of things I like better on the show, pre-season 7. This season, not much. That characters are where they need to be for endgame is an improvement over the books. Also, I still enjoy the show Cersei more than the novel Cersei. Jaime, too. GRRM made it easy for him to break with Cersei by turning Cersei into a Very Stupid Villain. The show's made it more difficult for him to make a clean break, as Cersei is still recognizably human. It's difficult to see the novel Cersei reasoning and pulling off the plot that the show Cersei managed.
  7. What really didn't work for me was the necessity for that meeting at all. Dany was in a position to destroy Cersei from the moment she stepped on Dragonstone...but she did not, and the show never bothered to give a believable reason. It was as if they needed this extra season, so they devoted it to a ridiculous contest between Dany and Cersei. What was even more insane was this meeting, presented as an armistice. Why would Dany, overpowered, agree to talks with Cersei? Why does Dany need this alliance? Cersei is a terrible ally: she's weak, so brings little in terms of military backing. She's unreliable, insane, prone to betray. Her only ally on Westeros is Euron, so it's not like an alliance with her is crucial to uniting Westeros. An alliance with her might do the opposite. A better meeting would have involved not Cersei, who should have gone down episode one, but the remaining houses in various regions. Also, yeah, I'd like to know what's going on in the Reach, in Dorne, in the Stormlands. Their lords paramount are all gone. So how will Dany and Jon convince them to send armies to fight the Walkers?
  8. It's not that LF is brilliant, but that through Game-Storm, GRRM hands him ridiculous amounts of plot armor. Everything works for him. Ned accepts the Handship. Lysa never hints that something was off about Arryn's death. Cat meets Tyrion at the Inn. Ned never suspects LF. Joffrey kills Ned, getting rid of LF's only witness. Tyrion suspects LF, but does nothing about it. Joffrey is killed with Tyrion placed at the perfect spot to incriminate himself. LF's drunken jester manages multiple secret meetings with Sansa and gets her safely to the ship. GRRM allows LF to be so successful that his overplaying his hand seems wrong, given that he's been overplaying his hand and hitting bullseyes for multiple volumes. I'd prefer him to remain successful and active politically, and being taken down by something supernatural. I detested this season, but Bran as the person behind LF's downfall worked for me. Bran is supernatural. LF's plot armor applies in the natural, political realm. He has no protection from three eyed ravens, zombies, or ice demons. Meanwhile, Varys...idk. I never got Varys, not in the novels, not in the show. Yes, possibly the Golden Company will give him more to do.
  9. Subjective, but in the novels, the post-War of the Five Kings LF is a shadow of his old self. He withdraws to the Vale, limits himself to tricking the Lords Declarant, and comes up with a plot (Harry and Sansa) that is obviously not going to be crucial, given Dany, Aegon, and, above all, the Walkers, are all coming. As for Varys, he never made any sense for me. His plot with Dany in Game does not work from any pov--and I can go on and on about this. Through Game, Clash, Storm, LF outplays him. In Dance, he's reintroduced as Aegon's supporter. That's kind of sad in that we've already had one magnificent civil war, orchestrated by LF, and this second civil war is a mere repeat. The Walkers are coming. They were always coming. WotFK made it obvious that lords must put aside their dynastic aspirations at least temporarily to do something about a zombie apocalypse. A second civil war to underline that is totally unnecessary. So yeah, I'd say Feast-Dance wrecked LF, and Varys was always wrecked.
  10. This. The situation is not how the op sees it. Also, for me, the expansion of the story to Essos in the novels never worked as the heart of the story remains Westeros. Including new complications and cultures when so much is happening on Westeros is unnecessary. Point in both novels and show is that Robb broke his promise, giving Tywin the ability to threaten and manipulate Frey into the Red Wedding. Tywin could do that because when Stannis lost Blackwater, Robb lost, too. That defeat was in part made possible by Robb's decision to accept the crown and start a separatist movement, which made it impossible for him to ally with Stannis. Anyhow, this mess is interesting enough on its own without involving Essos.
  11. Yes, it would be perfect, but for the incest. Maybe that's how both the novels and the show will magic away how saccharine this relationship is, if it indeed ends the show/novels. Minus incest, it's way more perfect than the Aragorn-Arwen thing, which was haunted by Arwen's new and unwelcome mortality. Tolkien said that LotR was about death, and he underlines that in their story. btw the show came closest to normalizing incest in Myrcella's speech to Jaime, right before she died.
  12. Season 1: MMD says nothing about Dany's ability to bear heirs. As you say, in the show, "sun rising in the east blah blah" is about Drogo's return. Season 7: Multiple characters are talking about MMD's prophecy that Dany may not bear children. Can't look up MMD's exact wording, as she says nothing like that back in season 1. VERY confusing. Anyhow, yes, season 8 Dany and Jon might end up living happily ever after, surrounded by their heirs and a pretty white fence made up of dragon bones. GRRM can work his bittersweet ending around that. Only thing I can't see happening is Cersei remaining on the throne.
  13. I was talking about the show, where if MMD made the prophecy, it would have been after the khalasar left, could have nothing to do with the Dosh Khaleen. I'd like to know if anyone mentions the prophecy before season 7. MMD did not utter it season 1. In the books, the wording is Why not end with "when your womb quickens again"? I read this as Dany will be unable to bear a living child. Dany's miscarriage in the Dothraki Sea supports that, but this is just my take. And all this is pointless, as the prophecy is not in the show.
  14. I speak as a person who only watched each season once, so I went back and looked at the script. By the time Dany wakes up from giving birth, the khalasar is gone--ie., the only people who can drag Dany off to Vaes Dothrak are unavailable. Dany herself is an outsider, and unlikely to join the Dosh Kaleen voluntarily. MMD would know this, so that prospect should be no part of her prophecy. ...and season 1 cuts out the prophecy altogether. "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. Then you shall return to me, my sun and stars," is Dany mourning Drogo. It has nothing to do with her ability to have children. I don't have the patience to search through every script, but I think Dany's infertility comes up for the first time this season, but everyone's speaking as if it was always a part of MMD's prophecy.
  15. Don't get infuriated! I've read the book multiple times, watched that season once. Sorry. Having said that, there's not a great deal of difference between "you're infertile" and "you will not bear living children," when it comes to continuing a dynasty. This season the show brought up MMD's prophecy that Dany would be unable to have heirs: Dany mentioned it to Jon, Tyrion to Dany in the context of figuring out some way of finding sovereigns without dynastic inheritance. My feeling is that either Dany's infertile, or she will become pregnant and her child will die. Either way, the line won't continue through her. It can, of course, continue through Jon, if he lives and chooses to become king. I'm not sure if he'll survive, or agree to the kingship, however.