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Black Mirror - Spoilers after the first post

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Go find episode 1. We'll discuss it in the morning.



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Is this the first episode of the second series about the clone boyfriend or the very first episode about the British PM called upon to fuck a pig for the sake of the nation?



edit - never mind, I see they're broadcasting both series back to back in the US. Yes, it's very good, the first episode is probably the least interesting one even.


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I loved all of these. I constantly change my mind on my favourite, it's either S1E2 (possibly called 1,000,000 points?), S1E3, or S2E2. If I was forced to choose, probably the last of those because it manages to bundle together its twist and its message, it probably affected me the most after viewing.

US people should really make an effort to catch them if possible, they're all self contained so the order you watch them in doesn't matter.

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Much as I like Brooker, my favourite one is the only one not written by him, I think it's called The History of You, about a point in the future where we all record everything through our eyes and consequently constantly relive our best moments. That episode's been optioned for a film by Robert Downey Junior's company.



Thinking about it, it might be quite exhausting watching them all in a row because, although they're different stories and different ideas, the bleak tone of them is pretty similar and it'd probably get tiresome.


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There hasn't been a series three yet has there?



I loved it, but it's definitely not easy to watch.



The White Rabbit one was pretty horrific.


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It's hard to sympathise with the characters because they're pretty much all arseholes, even if it seems like they're not at the beginning. And that makes it even more uncomfortable because the choices they make are largely the same ones anybody would make, for the most part.


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I was disappointed that the guy actually ended up fucking the pig. It was still good overall, but that just felt gratuitous.



I also think there'd be more public disgust about the whole thing, how it shames the nation as a whole. Even if a US president I hated was given the same ultimatum, I'd say it was an attack on America's image. That angle wasn't really explored.



That said, I was impressed with the exploration of media and the twist did resonate even if it felt a bit unrealistic.



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I was disappointed that the guy actually ended up fucking the pig. It was still good overall, but that just felt gratuitous.

I thought it was good how it lured you into thinking it would be funny, but then a lot of the people turned away or didn't watch at all. It kind of morphed from a comedy into a bleak drama, I don't think it could really have made its point if it had stopped short.

Also the scenarios only get more abstract, so the realism of them isn't really relevant. The second episode particularly is entirely set in a structure of some kind with no clue at all as to how, where or when any of it is happening. Others seem to be set in the present day but contain impossibly advanced technology.

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It's not meant to be completely realistic, it's reflecting the worst of our interaction with the world (mainly with technology.)


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By unrealistic I meant the idea that the city shuts down and no one sees the princess until the pig [is] already fucked.

I thought it was good how it lured you into thinking it would be funny, but then a lot of the people turned away or didn't watch at all. It kind of morphed from a comedy into a bleak drama, I don't think it could really have made its point if it had stopped short.

I can see that, and it is a good point about how something seemingly comical ends up being disturbing/depressing.

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By unrealistic I meant the idea that the city shuts down and no one sees the princess until the pig [is] already fucked.

Well yes that's precisely the point. In Real Life there would be people who wouldn't watch. But that's not what the story was focusing on, it was focusing on the very large proportion of people who would watch, and therefore miss that they're as complicit in it as the kidnapper.

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I also think there'd be more public disgust about the whole thing, how it shames the nation as a whole. Even if a US president I hated was given the same ultimatum, I'd say it was an attack on America's image. That angle wasn't really explored.

Might have something to do with the British PM not being revered like a demi-god in the same way as the US president. He's not a symbol of the UK, just its government.

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This is show is awesome.



The S1E2 episode, the credits one, actually surprised me. I thought they would laugh him off stage, not give him a show. The scenes with the singing contestant turned porn star genuinely disturbed me.


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This is show is awesome.

The S1E2 episode, the credits one, actually surprised me. I thought they would laugh him off stage, not give him a show. The scenes with the singing contestant turned porn star genuinely disturbed me.

The ending of 5 million credits seems to be a bit of a joke at Brookers own expense.

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The ending of 5 million credits seems to be a bit of a joke at Brookers own expense.

Yeah, it's useful to have a little context for that one. Charlie Brooker came to fame by doing incredibly scathing deconstructions of Television and the issues of the industry...in a TV show (Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe and Newswipe, if you're interested). So you can draw a lot of parallels between his career arc and that of Bing if you care to do so.

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Ah, thanks guys I wasn't aware of that.



So RDJ wants to movie-fy History of You? Seems like that story is good because it's so short.


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Black Mirror - 2014 Feature Length Christmas Special :





Charlie Brooker's Emmy-winning drama Black Mirror is returning with a feature-length Christmas special. The one-off special is billed as "the most mind-bending Black Mirror yet".



Brooker said: "I always enjoy a good ghost story at Christmas, and I'm a sucker for the Amicus' compendium horror movies of the 70s. Our aim is to create the Black Mirror equivalent of that."


Phil Clarke, Channel 4's head of comedy, added: "I'm delighted that we have a Black Mirror Special this Christmas. Charlie Brooker has penned a dystopian future festive tale, that intertwines three stories to deliver a dramatic and thrilling twist. It's satirical, comic, disturbing, and thought provoking. Not to be missed."



http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-08-20/charlie-brookers-black-mirror-to-return-for-a-christmas-special-on-channel-4


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How are people watching this show in the US? I see you can buy an expensive DVD set of Season 1 on Amazon, but no video on demand.


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How are people watching this show in the US? I see you can buy an expensive DVD set of Season 1 on Amazon, but no video on demand.

I'm not in the UK, so I just downloaded all episodes.

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I'm not in the UK, so I just downloaded all episodes.

From a torrent site or something?

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