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54 minutes ago, Tygett Lannister said:

Tyrells are the real greatpower, insane manpower, huge food supplies ... They has control over Tommen and Kingslanding. Council before deaths of Pycelle and Kevan:

  • Lord Regent - Ser Kevan Lannister, Protector of the Realm
  • Hand of the King - Lord Mace Tyrell
  • Grand Maester - Pycelle
  • Master of laws and justiciar - Lord Randyll Tarly
  • Master of coin and lord treasurer - Ser Harys Swyft
  • Master of ships and grand admiral - Lord Paxter Redwyne
  • Master of whispers - Qyburn
  • Lord Commander of the Kingsguard - Ser Jaime Lannister
  • Advisor - Nymeria Sand (acting in place of Doran Martell)

Only councilors in KL are Mace, Tarly and Paxter, Qyburn guess who is regent now. Pycelle will be replaced by Tyrell maester. Jamie is not in KL and can be replaced by Loras though unlikely. Nymeria Sand also isn't in KL yet. Tarly and Redwyne are his bannermen.

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Ser Harys Swyft is in Braavos, can also be replaced once he returns.

Council is almost completely Tyrell.  It should look something like that:

  • Lord Regent - Lord Mance Lannister, Protector of the Realm
  • Hand of the King - Lord Mace Tyrell
  • Grand Maester - Tyrell Maester
  • Master of laws and justiciar - Lord Randyll Tarly
  • Master of coin and lord treasurer - Ser Harys Swyft/Garth Tyrell
  • Master of ships and grand admiral - Lord Paxter Redwyne
  • Master of whispers: Tyrell loyalist
  • Lord Commander of the Kingsguard - Ser Jaime Lannister/Loras Tyrell
  • Advisor - Nymeria Sand (acting in place of Doran Martell)

Who's Mance Lannister?

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On 06/11/2017 at 2:55 AM, ChuckPunch said:

Robert didn't give a shit about that. His buddies wife giving him grief about the shitty council he doesn't ever attend would be enough for Robert to just say yes in order to get her to shut up. 

We see that Robert agrees to the killing of Lady, simply because of his not being able to deal with Cersei's nagging and whinging. We see more of this in King's Landing when the small council says that Robert hardly ever attends the meetings and is feasting and fucking himself into an early grave.

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A strong argument to make is that Petyr loved Catelyn, because Catelyn represented a High Lord / High Birth. Petyr was the lowest of lords and being fostered at Riverrun to one of the Highest Lords made him super ambitious enough to reach the status of a High Lordship. 

 

He saw how prestigious it was, and Brandon Stark ruined it for him. Being moved around and excelling at $$$ earned him a spot at the Small Counsel in KL there he switch his ambition towards being a KING!!!!  (where he fell out of love with Catelyn)

 

Remember Lysa was  the wife of the Hand, the 2nd most powerful man in the world.

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1 hour ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

Two traits that Littlefinger must possess in order to still be alive to where he is and have achieved what he has is:

1- A compartmentalized brain capacity

2- A photographic memory.

Well he definitely has the first one, second is also quite possible.

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1 hour ago, Tygett Lannister said:

Well he definitely has the first one, second is also quite possible.

I also think he must be a light sleeper. So much going on, so many plots within plots and one slip of the tongue could cost him his life. It is also a miracle Tyrion did not process the dagger more and have him killed for it for at minimal, intensely questioned over it.

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1 hour ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

I also think he must be a light sleeper. So much going on, so many plots within plots and one slip of the tongue could cost him his life. It is also a miracle Tyrion did not process the dagger more and have him killed for it for at minimal, intensely questioned over it.

What happened to that dagger anyways in the books? 

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On 11/7/2017 at 1:24 PM, A Ghost of Someone said:

I also think he must be a light sleeper. So much going on, so many plots within plots and one slip of the tongue could cost him his life. It is also a miracle Tyrion did not process the dagger more and have him killed for it for at minimal, intensely questioned over it.

Well it's worth pointing out that this isn't true.  Littlefinger is an awful plotter.  He's compulsively driven to tell everyone how much smarter he is than they are, and is always exposing his own plots out of a desire to show off how superior and smart he is.  It's dumb luck he hasn't been caught out.

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9 hours ago, cpg2016 said:

Well it's worth pointing out that this isn't true.  Littlefinger is an awful plotter.  He's compulsively driven to tell everyone how much smarter he is than they are, and is always exposing his own plots out of a desire to show off how superior and smart he is.  It's dumb luck he hasn't been caught out.

He has plot armor and his luck will run out because lies always catch up with you and they will him eventually. It is sort of miraculous that he has lived so long and achieved so much in a world where birth and lineage means about 90-95% of Everything and he is sort of low born. Not a peasant but basically a penny-less lord's son from the Fingers.

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