LordStoneheart Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Why has no one suspected Tommen of being Targaryen? the first description we get of him is having white-gold hair longer than Arya's.But looks are decidedly unimportant when looking for ancestry. I don't believe all Baratheon babies have black hair. that's just to help Eddard realized the truth, and not forensic proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordias Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hodor! Hodor, hodor, hodor hodor hodor!No, hahaha. Though it would be my favourite secret Targ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Tyrion Lannister Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I noticed the part about Hodor abhoring soap and cold water, but loving hot water in my reread as well. In addition to Daenerys and her hot bath, and being able to pick up the dragon egg out of the fire without burning herself, Hodor's hot spring love struck me as either potentially relevant or "passing odd." I thought it was too early the series for GRRM to insert red herrings just for the hell of it, but hey, what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Breaker Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 all hail king Hodor of house Taergaryan the first of his name, lord of the seven kingdoms, protector of the realm , lord of the rhyonar and the first men Hodor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Here's a question, If Blood Raven is warging people, for instance, Old Nan, and if he is warging her when she procreates with someone, Hodor's great-grandfather (whoever he is) does that person have some of Bloodravens traits?? To me that is the only way Hodor could have some Targ in him. I am not sure how the 'people warging' works. In Being John Malckovich Cameron diaz's character was inside Malckovich when he impregnated Catherine keener, therefore they claimed the baby was 'theirs'. Would it work the same way in ASOIAF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimere Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't think this is as far fetched as people think. Old Nan is described by Bran as being the oldest woman in the world (of course he can't possibly know that but point is she's old). Remember Aemon? He was a Targ who lived for so long because he lived in the north. Since Hodor is Old Nans grandson or possibly her great grandson, he could have Targ blood in him if she is a Targ. If she is a Targ she's probably a bastard.You might say "well what about her other children if they are Targs why aren't they living forever" and the answer to that is her sons or grandsons or possibly both died in a war, and her daughters went south. So voila, secret Targ! Okay, I'll put my tin foil hat away now :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persepolis Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I think it is pretty obvious at this point that Hodor is both Azor Ahai and tptwp, possibly even the stallion that mounts the world. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor the Cuddly Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 R + L = H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Everyone in Westeros is a secret Targ, it seems like. Tyrion, Jon, Jaime, now Hodor. Being a Targaryen isn't the exclusive club Viserys thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 R+L=Hodor.... Well no wonder she died giving birth to him!Too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellauthere Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Everyone in Westeros is a secret Targ, it seems like. Tyrion, Jon, Jaime, now Hodor. Being a Targaryen isn't the exclusive club Viserys thought it was.Hooooooooodoor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Everyone in Westeros is a secret Targ, it seems like. Tyrion, Jon, Jaime, now Hodor. Being a Targaryen isn't the exclusive club Viserys thought it was.Well for those three there is at least some evidence. Not gonna rehash, but what is the point of the author mentioning Aerys liking Joanna Lannister and "taking certain liberties" during her bedding ceremony if not for a little speculation?Secret targs may seem overly talked about on this forum, but I really think that's intentional by the author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team_Sansa Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor.My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rishav Banka Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 may be he is the secret child of Aemon targ nd old Nan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerolunar Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Go to Forum Games if you want to spam :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssalix Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hodor can either be the real Aegon targ, the true heir to the iron throne, a brain-damaged half giant.Or he can be the champion of the great other, trying to assassinate bran... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinwesteros Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I agree! In addition to this, GRRM said that one of the characters of ASoIaF descends from Dunk, and Bran sees him kissing a young girl in his first tree vision in Dance. I believe the girl is Old Nan, not a She-Wolf, but I guess we'll find out as soon as the novella is out.This is what I remember, too, though I can't cite the exact source. I thought that it was revealed in The Hedge Knight that Duncan the Tall married old Nan, and that, as you say, it's generally thought that it was Dunk kissing Old Nan as a girl near the Weirwood at Winterfell. Thus, Hodor would be the great grandson of Nan and Dunk (getting his height from Dunk). :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Steel Link Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't think he's a secret Targ.With that said, do we ever find out what happened to Jenny of Oldstones and Duncan Targaryen? Old nan is described as incredibly old, but I'm not sure if that would put her in the same generation as Maester Aemon or the one below it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Lannister Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Hodor?? HODOR HODOR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tquinn BC Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Totally correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure it has been discussed elsewhere.But I thought eventually dunk and egg go to winterfell. Dunk has a fling, he passes the super tall gene on, with his lover of course... NanMaybe this is crackpot and the times are off somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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