Orphu Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 As many works of H.P lovecraft have entered public domain, and considering George RR martin's involvement of shared world tales such as wildcards, and the ubiquity of shared world tales connected with Lovecraft's writings,I think it's possible that the Ironborn could be worshipping a deity out of the Cthulhu Mythos. Probably not Cthulhu himself though, that would be too obvious, but some other Cthulhu deity with a squid like head, thus accounting for the Greyjoy standard.My idea is that the gods of Westeros, like those of the Cthulhu mythos, are aliens. Magic is linked to them, and they had left westeros, but recently returned, as evidenced by the comet, and it is that return that has sparked the resurgence of magic. My textual evidence on this is really thin, mainly because I can't be bothered looking for references, but you would have to agree that the Drowned God religion of the Ironborn has a Cthulhu cult vibe, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ravenstark Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you... aliens? Are you sure about what you are talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Cool people from #westeros chatroom will love this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Ice Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The Drowned God is Cthulu, it is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Idiots Lantern Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Not really likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Targaryen Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Does that make theon cartman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 It is entirely possible that the gods (excluding the Old Gods, of course) of ASOIAF are "aliens" in the Lovecraftian sense, but I doubt we will see any proof, because GRRM has said we won't meet any godsAnother Lovecraftian contender for Drowned God: Dagon.Also- The Black Goat of Qohor is Shub-Niggurath the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young.GRRM has a ton of Lovecraft references sprinkled through ASOIAF, here's another thread about it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanniswillwin Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So you're saying extraterrestrials visited westeros in the past, would that make the​m ancient aliens ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So you're saying extraterrestrials visited westeros in the past, would that make the​m ancient aliens ?Sure they were riding in the moon that brought the dragons and the Others. It is known, at least to the horse folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'hllor wgah'nagl fhtagn! Not really likely. :BSure they were riding in the moon that brought the dragons and the Others. It is known, at least to the horse folk.Does that mean dragons are really Nightgaunts or Mi-Go? :BThe Drowned God and his follower, Dagon Greyjoy (once king of the Iron Islands) is an obvious nod to H.P. Lovecraft. Along with the kraken motif that goes with it. Har. But nah, the Drowned God isnt really Cthulhu as awesome as it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yeah I dont think Martin would go for aliens in a story like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Lion Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Unfortunately, much as I love Lovecraft, GRRM loves to drop references and shout outs to popular culture without literally incorporating the concepts into his book. So the Drowned God is Chthuluesque without being the old squid-head himself -- its an homage. Sort of like the Three Stooges being "in" Westeros without literally being Larry, Curly, and Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrianna Clegane Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really like this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygritte Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Unfortunately, much as I love Lovecraft, GRRM loves to drop references and shout outs to popular culture without literally incorporating the concepts into his book. So the Drowned God is Chthuluesque without being the old squid-head himself -- its an homage. Sort of like the Three Stooges being "in" Westeros without literally being Larry, Curly, and Mo. This. He's not literally Cthulhu but he's definitely a reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowford Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 No. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Idiots live on islands long enough, they start to see a god in the water. simple. Inspiration, definitely Cthulhu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingInTheNawth Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Maybe. Carcosa is supposedly in Essos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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