Stan the Man Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Manderly's grandaughter was very adamant about holding to the Starks during Davo's petition in the Merman's court, saying something along the lines of- we swore a solemn oath to the Starks, who rescued us from exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The northern houses want the Starks back but not as much as they want the Boltons out. Everyone knows Ramsay is a psychopath and most know or suspect Roose's involvement in the RW. The northern houses will rally around the first "Stark" to appear alongside a direwolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanTheBold Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Im the biggest supporter of the Stark but do the northern lords want them back at Winterfell in command of the North? Yea they are honorable and beloved but their foolness lead to them putting the entire north in civil war a s it seems like to big an effort to put a Stark back in WinterfellI just think at this point some of them want the Boltons and Freys out of the North and call it a day....What do you think?Have u not read a dance with dragons because that a big point in it. Not to be dick but you should read all the books before u ask dumb questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Nastja Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The Northmen know that this war would have come eventually, the Starks are only partly to blame. And the Starks are the only real leaders that the North will ever recognise, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 If it's a choice between Starks and Boltons, the choice is Starks. Ned left behind a good legacy, with northern lords willing to save his daughter out of the admiration they held for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper56 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yes and im pretty sure rickon will be new lord of winterfell since that will win stannis support of the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 You can look at umbers, even greatjon is prisoner, half of them accept boltons...Boltons will never rule north entirely... If Roose thinks he can rule all of them, he is really fool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montespan Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 If I recall correctly, I read that the main difference between the Starks and the Boltons is that the Starks were loved or at least respected, the Boltons simply rule through fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I'm pretty sure it also says in aSoS that the common folk in the north didn't have to look over their shoulders when the wolves ruled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agirlsaysaname Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 You can look at umbers, even greatjon is prisoner, half of them accept boltons...Boltons will never rule north entirely... If Roose thinks he can rule all of them, he is really fool...Pretty sure Roose isn't going to be ruling anything after the upcoming battle. We may not have a Stark back at that point, but Roose won't have a head so it will be a turnover in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I'm pretty sure it also says in aSoS that the common folk in the north didn't have to look over their shoulders when the wolves ruled.From who's POV was this from?We know that the Boltons get up to despicable acts, that the Umbers practice first night and that Jorah was selling people into slavery. We also know that in the last 18 years the people of the North have been involved in 3 major wars, 2 of which were partially started by the Starks and we also know that Balon Greyjoy targeted the North for Ned taking his son.There are plenty of reasons why some may be happy in a change of leadership, the main reason why the Starks may get their power back is more down to Roose's heir being a complete sociopath than Stark greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 They undeniably do. A Stark, any Stark, is what they wantEven Rooses key "support", Lady Dustin is extremely suspect. Hell, one of her main reason to not like the Starks is because she wanted to be one of them. Theon, whether you call him hostage or ward, also wants to be a Stark-must be something in the water ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 From who's POV was this from?We know that the Boltons get up to despicable acts, that the Umbers practice first night and that Jorah was selling people into slavery. We also know that in the last 18 years the people of the North have been involved in 3 major wars, 2 of which were partially started by the Starks and we also know that Balon Greyjoy targeted the North for Ned taking his son.There are plenty of reasons why some may be happy in a change of leadership, the main reason why the Starks may get their power back is more down to Roose's heir being a complete sociopath than Stark greatness.I just re-read and I don't remember, but I'll try and find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Stannis Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 From who's POV was this from?Bran and Liddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 From who's POV was this from?We know that the Boltons get up to despicable acts, that the Umbers practice first night and that Jorah was selling people into slavery. We also know that in the last 18 years the people of the North have been involved in 3 major wars, 2 of which were partially started by the Starks and we also know that Balon Greyjoy targeted the North for Ned taking his son.There are plenty of reasons why some may be happy in a change of leadership, the main reason why the Starks may get their power back is more down to Roose's heir being a complete sociopath than Stark greatness.Try showing both sides of the story.Roose did all he could to hide his activities from NedNed went to deal justice to Jorah. Jorah also only got to sell a small number to the slavers-its not like it was a businessWho said that about the Umbers again?Wars were brought and forced on them. At Roberts rebellion, it wasnt only Brandon Stark who died, but Ethan Glover and his other companions. Id say the houses of the North were baying for justiceIt was from Bran POV, but the words were that of a common man, whos fire and food they shared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Bran and LiddleYeah, the Liddle armsman said 'a girl could walk the kingsroad in her maidens-day dress when there was a Stark in Winterfell'or something close to that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEyedCrow Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yes the present Starks did commit some political follies, btu the fact remains that according to ADWD, the NOrthern LOrds loved the Starks. Furthermore, the Starks have been successfully ruling the North for THOUSANDS of years, they have rukes through multiple wars, winters, and conquerers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Idiots Lantern Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Pretty sure Roose isn't going to be ruling anything after the upcoming battle. We may not have a Stark back at that point, but Roose won't have a head so it will be a turnover in power.You remember Ramsey is Roose's "trueborn" heir at this moment, right?Which means if Roose dies, Ramsey is the new Lord of the Dreadfort and Warden of the North.How's THAT for nightmare fuel?I know it's true Ramsey probably won't be able to hang on to the North for long.... remember how unhappy everyone was at his treatment of "Arya Stark." The people still love the Starks. Now he doesn't even have her anymore. Without the Stark connection, Ramsey's gonna have to rely on sheer TERROR to maintain his grip on power....which he will relish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agirlsaysaname Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Jorah turned over poachers to slavers instead of the night's watch. The fact remains they were criminals, not innocent people. Poaching was considered a big deal in this society, sort of like armed robbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agirlsaysaname Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 You remember Ramsey is Roose's "trueborn" heir at this moment, right?Which means if Roose dies, Ramsey is the new Lord of the Dreadfort and Warden of the North.How's THAT for nightmare fuel?Ramsey will be dead as well, most likely ripped apart in gruesome fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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